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echo: rtkba
to: GUS GERE
from: STEVE GUNHOUSE
date: 1998-05-11 05:32:00
subject: Firearms

 -=> Quoting Gus Gere to Charles French on 09 May 98  23:39 <=-
 Re: Firearms 
 CF> No I use a slide holster.  Basically two belt loops and and  
 CF> a small pouch to hold the gun.  Never tried a shoulder 
 GG> Shoulder holsters are a pain sometimes, literally. They look cool on
 GG> TV,  but...I'll have to look at something like  Pancake-style holster
 GG> or a belt   slide. I'm looking at one right now that holds a 2 inch S&W
 GG> Model 15   .38 Special. I dunno about those "inside the pants" holsters
 GG> that are held   to the belt with a metal clip. I have visions of a bad
 GG> "Get Smart" episode  where the things goes off. 
If the gun goes off, it doesn't matter too much how the holster is 
attached - whether it's inside the waistband or around your midsection, 
or whatever. But there's a sure way to prevent an A.D. of that type: Keep
your finger off the trigger until the gun is clear of the holster and
pointed at the target.
 CF> Todays guns are built safe enough that I keep all the chambers full.
 GG> Habit I guess. So they won't go off if you drop it? 
There are too typical types of safeties here. There are transfer-bars, 
like I have always associated with Ruger, but which my Taurus 605 and 
others also use. They have a slot in the hammer itself so that the hammer 
can't directly contact the firing pin. When you actually pull the 
trigger, a transfer bar is raised into position over the firing pin, so 
that contact can be made. There is no other way, without inserting some 
junk between the hammer and the firing pin, to fire the gun.
Some Smiths use a different system. The firing pin is actually attached 
to the hammer (rather than locked into the frame) and the hammer itself 
moves. The position of the hammer pivot is such that, when the trigger is 
not pulled the firing pin won't extend past the frame and can't contact 
the primer on a live round. When the trigger is actually pulled, the 
hammer pivot is actually moved (before the hammer falls) so that the 
firing pin can make contact and fire a round.
There may be other systems in use out there, I can't say. Unless you were 
to special order an original Colt Peacemaker or something of the sort, 
just about any recent handgun will have some system making it so that 
"they won't go off if you drop it", yes.
OTOH, if your address is what the origin line says (in Ontario), good 
luck.
Steve
... Don't play for safety, it is the most dangerous thing in the world.
--- GEcho 1.00
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