After being aced by Monica Seles, Dave Neuman said:
 DN> Is that what I said?... funny how you didn't quote it..
My bad, you said:
 DN> worst ever.  Their record, for starters wasn't nearly as bad.  This
 DN> current team has no talent whatsoever, outside of Antoine Walker.
Ok, so you didn't Wesley was their only talent; you said that about Walker.
 DN> I already discussed Walker earlier.. as I recall, I said Walker was
 DN> their only possible future star..
You said that he was their only TALENT.
 DN> night when he's on his game, but is known to be injury-prone (don't get
 DN> on me about this not being a default, you were predicting an injury to
 DN> Kidd next year..
Don't be so defensive. I happened to mention it so I obviously see that fact. 
Radja hasn't played a "full" season since he was a rookie and he should be 
seen as a player that should come off the bench to minimize his effect. 
Still, when he's healthy, he's a damn good player.
 DN> Yes he is.  Where the hell has he been all season??
Obviously, you're not watching. 15.8 points per game, 3.8 assists, 5.2 
rebounds and 2nd on the team in 3-point pct behind the injured Barros.
 DN> This is irrelevant to our discussion.  The topic is, is this the worst
 DN> Celtics team of all time?
Ok, then let's look at that - AS I HAVE BEEN DOING. The WORST was the bunch 
that started the 78-79 season. They had *some* talent like Cowens, Ford and 
Maxwell but they also had players that couldn't give a rat's butt about 
anything except collecting a paycheck. The team that FINISHED that season was 
different. They didn't have the excuse that 4 players were put out for the 
season with injuries like this bunch. They weren't integrating a young bunch 
into their team, they were playing bad players, old players and players with 
bad attitudes. Their 2-12 start was a portent of things to come and 
management did what it could to make sure that Bird had a better cast to work 
with by the end of the season (Starting with the early acquisition of Ford 
and then the additions of Stacom, McAdoo and Robey). Without the shakeup, 
that team is even worse than this one and without all those injuries, this 
team is a 30+ game winner. This is a far more solid team to build on than the 
one that started or even finished the 78-79 season.
 DN> Bout 30 games out right now.. seems fairly far to me.
The team is capable of winning 30 games like they did last year but the 
injuries have taken their toll.
 DN> up their scoring, which is in the top 6 or 7 in the league, amazingly.
 DN> But they keep finding ways to lose.
Their style of play makes it easier on their opponents. If they were a slow 
down bunch like Vancouver, they'd be giving up as fewer points than the 
Grizzlies but they're trying to play "Celtics" basketball on offense. If and 
when they get the final pieces of their puzzle, they don't have to worry 
about having the kind of players that they NEED to play that style, they've 
already got them.
 DN> situation. The Grizz are probably the worst team of all time.
No, the Dallas Mavericks and Philadelphia 76ers had the worst teams of all 
time. If this were the Grizzlies 9th or 10th season, I might agree that they 
were one of the worst but they not even that bad for a second year expansion 
team.
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