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to: Phil Marlowe
from: Howie Coombe
date: 2003-09-09 08:02:52
subject: GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK

Dear Phil, i will rsvp asap,.  
 > ------GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK
 >  
 >> I've been away for awhile as well.
 >  
 >HC> Doing what exactly? if you dont mind my ask
 >
 >  Holidays. Shopping. Preparing. Wrapping.
 >  Visiting. Relatives. Kiddies. Babysitting.
 >  Making Funny Faces. Toboganing. Shovelling Snow.
 >  Cooking. Helping Others Cook. Offering
 >  Unsolicited Cooking Advice Which Was Rejected.
 >  Eating Too Much. Drinking Too Much. Being
 >  Grouchy About It All. And More Of That Sort Of
 >  Holiday Thing.
 >  
 >> Here are a couple of positive tidbits about garlic,
 >> the first one interesting to anyone with heart problems:
 >  
 >HC> Which includes me,.
 >
 >  What type, may I ask?
 >  
 >> --------------------QUOTING-1-----------------------
 >> -----SUPPLEMENT SUBSTITUTES FOR STATINS
 >  GARLIC, OLIVE OIL, FISH OIL, BENECOL MARGARINE
 >> From: "oldal4865" > sci.med.pharmacy
 >  Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure? Date:
 >  
 >> >> How about garlic oil caps? Do they have a
 >  significant effect on
 >  
 >> I attended a Diabetes Training course last
 >  night in which > cholesterol/heart attack issues
 >> were raised.
 >> The CDE quoted reputable medical sources which
 >  asserted that : a. Fish Oil > (minimum 2
 >  gram/day) b. Benecol (taken as the margerine, 3
 >  servings per > day) c. Policosanol (10 - 30
 >  mg/day) are partial replacements for the statins
 >  which some of us cannot take.
 >  
 >> 1. Olive oil is a **given**.  > It is assumed
 >  that folks worried about this matter switch to
 >  olive oil as > their cooking oil immediately.
 >  
 >HC> I know i do when i feel like a diet,.

 >  What types of diet have you tried? And did you succeed? Or do you
simply    > wing it?

 >> 2. Their remarks on Garlic as a supplement: "Shown to be effective in

 >> Effects may take 4-6 weeks. Adult daily dose 4-12 mg allicin or 3-10 

 >> ===Caution: Heat and acid destroy active components so enteric-coated

 >>  3. Benecol is a trade name for a patented "plant
sterol". It is sold as

 > HC> And here we double the price,.

 >> 4. Policosanol is a wax obtained from sugar cane(?). It is sold in pill

 > HC> And again here we would double the price,.

 >  Well, the Aussie buck is worth less than the US buck, as is the Canadian.

 >> Sorry, no citations given.

 > HC> Bummer,.

 >  I'm pretty sure fish oil and garlic are accepted as having more or
less     > valid studies behind them. The probalem is usually compliance
-- much        > easier and convenient to pop a pill -- which is why
doctors dont much like   > this kind of self medication. Then there's
the problem of the strength of    > the active component, which may vary
widely with for instance different      > varieties of garlic. But I
think it works on a long term basis if you        > seriously
incorporate the substance into your regular diet. Blood tests and  >
 > Juxtaposition BBS, Telnet:juxtaposition.dynip.com (1:167/133)

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