26 May 03 10:03, Dana Booth wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> 23 May 03 20:55, Dana Booth wrote to Roy Witt:

Sheesh, has it been that long ago!

 RW>> The real pisser is that the state DOJ has been keeping
 RW>> firearm sales
 RW>> records for about 10 years.  Once you're on that roll, or
 RW>> you register one
 RW>> of the assault weapons on their list, you're subject to
 RW>> searches for other
 RW>> weapons, anytime they feel like it.

 DB> People can block a pier in Oakland, and they figure that's their
 DB> right. They force public schoolkids to celebrate the homosexual
 DB> community, illegal Mexicans collect all sorts of welfare,

and are made US citizens, with dual citizenship.

 DB> and college
 DB> professors show porn videos in their classes while blocking ROTC
 DB> activities.

If you send your kids to todays colleges, you're sending them off to be
indoctrinated in left wing hypocracy.

 DB>  And all of them claim to have the "right". Yet, when
 DB> normal, honest citizens engage in an activity that's not only legal,
 DB> but which the authors of The Constitution specifically addressed as a
 DB> "right", these people are treated like criminals by their own
 DB> government. Yeah, that is a pisser...

Yeup.

 RW>> Hopefully you don't have a Feinstien or a Boxer...

 DB> Patty "Osama is a good guy" Murry, and Maria Cantwell. Murry has
 DB> earned the reputation for being quite dim, and was elected because
 DB> whoever the people in Seattle vote for, the rest of the state is
 DB> stuck with. She was a Dem running against a Republican guy. You do
 DB> the math. :) Cantwell is an even worse example of this. She was a Dem
 DB> running against a Republican guy with tons of clout, Slade Gorton.
 DB> And now, they're all wondering, what happned to the steady stream of
 DB> Federal funds? Why's Boeing moving? Well, they made our bed by voting
 DB> in two junior senators with no clout, now we have to sleep there...

Sounds like Grayout Davis. He's been asking the President for a handout
and it's fallen on deaf ears. When California can give the President the
states voter majority, the state might get some help. With it's past
history, I doubt it though. I have to laugh every time one of the
Democraps speaks up and whines about how badly the state is being treated
by the President. I wonder what it is that they expect from him?  I know
that if I were the Prez's shoes, I'd tell um a thing or two.

 RW>> I have two .380s that I like to carry. They're a whole
 RW>> lot lighter than
 RW>> the 1911.

 DB> I've heard the term, "social purposes", in referring to carry guns,
 DB> i.e., "A .380 is too small a caliber for social
purposes." I couldn't
 DB> disagree more.

The same here.

 DB> When I was a patrol deputy, I carried a Smith L-frame
 DB> .357. I don't recall anyone carrying a .38, that being the weakest we
 DB> were allowed to carry, and some carried .41's and .44's. If a cop
 DB> gets into a shootout, the perp knows that the cop is either going to
 DB> kill him or arrest him, he knows the cop will chase him down, and is
 DB> far more likely to put up some very determined return fire. It's
 DB> therefore adventagous for the cop to carry something that will put a
 DB> quick end to the firefight with one hit. An armed citizen, otoh, has
 DB> something completely different in mind, in that all he or she wants
 DB> to do is use the firearm as an aid in removing themselves from a
 DB> dangerous situation. One hit with a .380 may or may not kill the bad
 DB> guy, but it has given the good guy time to split. .380's, being small
 DB> and easily concealed, for the most part, under even light clothing,
 DB> are an excellent carry gun, and especially so for women, since
 DB> they're so easily controlable.

That sounds about right. I might add that even the sight of a firearm,
especially in the hands of a scared woman, will scare off a would be
attacker. Only the determined won't be bluffed like that.

 RW>> I've seen a .25 scare off a potential rapist. He turned
 RW>> white as a sheet
 RW>> when the gal shoved it under his nose...

 DB> I was talking to a guy at a gun show once... He told me that more
 DB> people have been injured with .25's than any other caliber. I thought
 DB> that was kind of odd. He continued, "... yeah, everytime someone gets
 DB> shot with a .25, they get mad and beat the crap out of the guy that
 DB> shot them!" :) Sure, fun to say, but... My in-laws have this
 DB> neighbor, their daughter shot herself with a .22 revolver in the gut.
 DB> She died about twenty minutes later. She told her parents before she
 DB> died that she knew she was going to die and was so scared, because
 DB> she had only wanted some attention. No one dies of a .22 bullet,
 DB> after all.

I forget how long ago this was, (1970's - early 1980s) but there was a
woman who was shot in the nose with a pellet gun. It penetrated the
cartiledge and killed her.

It was a freak accident for sure, but it sure sent a message of
vulnerability of the human to such things as an air powered projectile.


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