Billy wrote:
> In article , RF  
> wrote:
> 
>> Billy wrote:
>>> In article 
>>>
,
>>>  "trigonometry1972{at}gmail.com |"
 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 20, 11:36 pm, "Juhana Harju"
 wrote:
>>>>> RF wrote:
>>>>>> I am one of those low BP guys who can get by with
>>>>>> salt and caffeine
>>>>>> and I know some people who are in the same
>>>>>> position but cannot use
>>>>>> caffeine, so only salt is left to them - not a
>>>>>> very healthy choice.
>>>>>> I have seen on some herbal bottles that the
>>>>>> product may raise the BP,
>>>>>> so there must be some that do, but can they do it
>>>>>> safely?
>>>>> Rosemary and licorice might work.
>>>>>
>>>>> alt.folklore.herbs added.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Juhana
>>>>>
>>>>> Ravintoblogini:http://ruohikolla.blogspot.com/
>>>> I won't rate licorice as safe over the long term.
>>>> Though it might make sense if one's goal is to
>>>> flunk a draft physical.
>>> http://www.holistic-online.com/Herbal-Med/_Herbs/h204.htm
>>>
>>> Safety:
>>>
>>> Caution : There is a small possibility of effecting electrolyte balance 
>>> with extended use of large doses of licorice. It has an ACTH
like effect 
>>> causing retention of sodium thus raising BP. The whole herb has 
>>> constituents that counter this but it is best to avoid Licorice if the 
>>> patient has hypertension, kidney disease or during pregnancy. 
>>>
>>> It may interfere with the calcium and potassium absorption. Do not use 
>>> if you are suffering from osteoporosis, hypertension (increases water 
>>> around heart). Take with boiled milk. 
>>>
>>> No other information about the safety of this herb is available. Use 
>>> caution. Ayurvedic herbs are often taken in combination with others to 
>>> neutralize the toxicity one herb with the opposing effect of other. Do 
>>> not take except under the supervision of a qualified professional.
>> My thanks to everyone.
>>
>> OK, licorice is struck off my list. Seems like the 
>> others are enough for a start.
>>
>> Does anyone know of the relationship between the 
>> size of the doses and the
>> elevation in BP for the list I gave (minus 
>> licorice)?  Or is it individual-dependent?
> 
> Probably idiocentric, like allopathic medicine

I guess I'll have to put a cuff on, start popping 
the pills or caps, and
write down the numbers every 15 mins.

I just did some reading in the LEF Disease 
Prevention and Treatment
manual that it takes 2 grams of calcium citrate to 
block 40% of the iron
in a meal. Seems like one would get calcium 
overload at that rate. They
also mentioned black tea to block the iron but no 
numbers were given.

It would appear that this work is still in its 
infancy.
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