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Pastor Frank,

In the passage you quoted below, I see many footnote numbers but no
footnotes to indicate where the information came from. Would it be
possible for you to post the actual footnotes?

Thanks!

"Pastor Frank"  wrote in message news:...
> "Divine"  wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.08.23.06.34.02.988573@TRACKER...
> > On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:51:29 -0400, Pastor Frank wrote:
> > >
> > >  Listen to reason and stay out of religious NGs.
> >
> > 
> > A Fundamentalist saying "listen to reason".
> > Very funny!
> > Divine
> > The above reply is in response to a person who can be only described as a
> > knuckle-dragger.
> >
>     "knuckle-dragger" indeed!!!!! You want to discuss your crotch in our
> pristine religious NGs? I have lots of scientific material here from  people
> who are NOT fundamentalists and who DO know what they are talking about. See
> below
> 
> Pastor Frank
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HOMOSEXUALS DO
> 
> Throughout history, the major civilizations major religions
> condemned homosexuality.1 Until 1961 homosexual acts were
> illegal throughout America.
> 
> engaging in...oral and anal
> sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction."4
> 
> What Homosexuals Do The major surveys on homosexual behavior
> are summarized below. Two things stand out 1) homosexuals
> behave similarly world-over, and 2) as Harvard Medical
> Professor, Dr. William Haseltine,33 noted in 1993, the
> "changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have
> occurred in some groups have proved, for the most part, to be
> transient. For example, bath houses and sex clubs in many
> cities have either reopened or were never closed."
> 
> Homosexual Activities (in %) US16 US13  US    US18 Denmark20
> US19  London27  Sydney/London26 Canada25
> 
> 1940s1977 83/84  1983  1984   1983    1985       1991 ever
> ever  ever in yr in yr  in mo   in mo   last 6mo
> 
> oral/penile
> anal/penile
> oral/anal
> urine sex
> fisting/toys   -ram fist up anus
> fecal sex-eating
> enemas
> torture sex          [beat, slash, cut make bleed - from anus]
> public/orgy sex
> sex with minors   [includes infants of either sex - cases of two month old
> sodomized]
>  ORAL SEX
>  Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual
> contacts (and ingest semen from about half of these). Semen
> contains many of the germs carried in the blood. Because of
> this, gays who practice oral sex verge on consuming raw human
> blood, with all its medical risks. Since the penis often has
> tiny lesions
> (and often will have been in unsanitary places such as a
> rectum), individuals so involved may become infected with
> hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B). Since
> many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated
> that they had had sex only once with over half of their
> partners17,27), and gays average somewhere between 106 and
> 1105 different partners/year, the potential for infection is
> considerable.
> 
> RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have
> engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it
> regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries,3
> gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a
> year.
> 
> Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum
> becomes a mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an
> artificial lubricant, 2) the recipient's own feces, 3)
> whatever germs, infections or substances the penis has on it,
> and 4) the seminal fluid of the inserter. Since sperm readily
> penetrate the rectal wall (which is only one cell thick)
> causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of the
> anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these
> substances gain almost direct access to the blood stream.
> Unlike heterosexual intercourse (in which sperm cannot
> penetrate the multilayered vagina and no feces are present),7
> rectal intercourse is probably the most sexually efficient way
> to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host of other
> blood-borne diseases.
> 
> Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with
> "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum.
> It is also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo
> for objects which are inserted into the rectum--bottles,
> carrots, even gerbils8). The risk of contamination and/or
> having to wear a colostomy bag from such "sport" is very real.
> Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's time that he didn't
> think to talk about it. By
> 1977, well over a third of gays admitted to doing it. The
> rectum was not designed to accommodate the fist, and those who
> do so can find themselves consigned to diapers for life.
> 
> FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking
> and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and
> thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those
> who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In
> the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this
> activity--half regularly over 6 months.
>  Ingestion of human waste is the major
> route of contracting hepatitis A and the enteric parasites
> collectively known as the Gay Bowel Syndrome. Consumption of
> feces has also been implicated in the transmission of typhoid
> fever,9 herpes, and cancer.27 About 10% of gays have eaten or
> played with [e.g., enemas, wallowing in feces]. The San
> Francisco Department of Public Health saw 75,000 patients per
> year, of whom 70 to 80 per cent are homosexual men....An
> average of 10 per cent of all patients and asymptomatic
> contacts reported...because of positive fecal samples or
> cultures for amoeba, giardia, and shigella infections were
> employed as food handlers in public establishments; almost 5
> per cent of those with hepatitis A were similarly employed."10
> In 1976, a rare airborne scarlet fever broke out among gays
> and just missed sweeping through San Francisco.10 The U.S.
> Centers for Disease Control reported that 29% of the hepatitis
> A cases in Denver, 66% in New York, 50% in San Francisco, 56%
> in Toronto, 42% in Montreal and 26% in Melbourne in the first
> six months of 1991 were among gays.11 A 1982 study "suggested
> that some transmission from the homosexual group to the
> general population may have occurred."12
> 
> URINE SEX About 10% of Kinsey's gays reported having engaged
> in "golden showers" [drinking or being splashed with urine].
> In the largest survey of gays ever conducted,13 23% admitted
> to urine-sex. In the largest random survey of gays,6 29%
> reported urine-sex. In a San Francisco study of 655 gays,14
> only 24% claimed to have been monogamous in the past year. Of
> these monogamous gays, 5% drank urine, 7% practiced "fisting,"
> 33% ingested feces via anal/oral contact,
> 53% swallowed semen, and 59% received semen in their rectum
> 
> 
> OTHER GAY SEX PRACTICES SADOMASOCHISM as the Table indicates,
> a large minority of gays engage in torture for sexual fun. Sex
> with minors 25% of white gays17 admitted to sex with boys 16
> or younger as adults. In a 9-state study,30 33% of the 181
> male, and 22% of the 18 female teachers caught molesting
> students did so homosexually
> (though less than 3% of men and 2% of women engage in
> homosexuality31). Depending on the study, the percent of gays
> reporting sex in public restrooms ranged from 14%16 to 41%13
> to 66%,6 9%16, 60%13 and 67%5 reported sex in gay baths; 64%16
> and 90%18 said that they used illegal drugs.
> 
> Fear of AIDS may have reduced the volume of gay sex partners,
> but the numbers are prodigious by any standard. Morin15
> reported that 824 gays had lowered their sex-rate from 70
> different partners/yr. in 1982 to 50/yr. by 1984. McKusick14
> reported declines from 76/yr. to 47/yr. in 1985. In Spain32
> the average was 42/yr. in 1989.
> 
> Medical Consequences of Homosexual Sex Death and disease
> accompany promiscuous and unsanitary sexual activity. 70%25 to
> 78%x,13 of gays reported having had a sexually transmitted
> disease. The proportion with intestinal parasites (worms,
> flukes, amoeba) ranged from 25%18 to 39%19 to 59%.20 As of
> 1992, 83% of U.S. AIDS in whites had occurred in gays.21 The
> Seattle sexual diary study3? reported that gays had, on a
> yearly average:
> 
> fellated 108 men and swallowed semen from 48; exchanged saliva
> with 96; experienced 68 penile penetrations of the anus; and
> ingested fecal material from 19. No wonder 10% came down with
> hepatitis B and 7% contracted hepatitis A during the 6-month
> study.
> 
>  The typical life-span of homosexuals
> suggests that their activities are more destructive than
> smoking nd as dangerous as drugs.
> 
> Obituaries numbering 6,516 from 16 U.S. homosexual journals
> over the past 12 years were compared to a large sample of
> obituaries from regular newspapers.23 The obituaries from the
> regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for
> longevity; the medium age of death of married men was 75, and
> 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or
> divorced men the median age of death was 57, and 32% of them
> died old. Married women averaged age 79 at death; 85% died
> old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of
> them died old.
> 
> The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was
> virtually the same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2%
> survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the
> median age was 39. For the 829 gays who died of something
> other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42,
> lesbians had a median age of death of 44
> 
> Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays died violently.
> They were 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt
> to commit suicide; and had a traffic-accident death-rate 18
> times the rate of comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks,
> 
> 
> The Gay Legacy Homosexuals rode into the dawn of sexual
> freedom and returned with a plague that gives every indication
> of destroying most of them. Those who treat AIDS patients are
> at great risk, not only from HIV infection, which as of 1992
> involved over 100 health care workers,21 but also from TB and
> new strains of other diseases.24 Those who are housed with
> AIDS patients are also at risk.24 Those who are housed with
> AIDS patients are also at risk.24 Dr. Max Essex, chair of the
> Harvard AIDS Institute, warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has
> already led to other kinds of dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is
> not eliminated, other new lethal microbes will emerge, and
> neither safe sex nor drug free practices will prevent them."28
> At least 8, and perhaps as many as 30 29 patients had been
> infected with HIV by health care workers as of 1992.
> 
> The Biological Swapmeet The typical sexual practices of
> homosexuals are a medical horror story --imagine exchanging
> saliva, feces, semen and/or blood with dozens of different men
> each year. Imagine drinking urine, ingesting feces and
> experiencing rectal trauma on a regular basis. Often these
> encounters occur while the participants are drunk, high,
> and/or in an orgy setting. Further, many of them occur in
> extremely unsanitary places (bathrooms, dirty peep shows), or,
> because homosexuals travel so frequently, in other parts of
> the world.
> 
> Every year, a quarter or more of homosexuals visit another
> country.20 Fresh American germs get taken to Europe, Africa
> and Asia. And fresh pathogens from these continents come here.
> Foreign homosexuals regularly visit the U.S. and participate
> in this biological swapmeet.
> 
> The Pattern of Infection Unfortunately the danger of these
> exchanges does not merely affect homosexuals. Travelers
> carried so many tropical diseases to New York City that it had
> to institute a tropical disease center, and gays carried HIV
> from New York City to the rest of the world.27 Most of the
> 6,349 Americans who got AIDS from contaminated blood as of
> 1992, received it from homosexuals and most of the women in
> California who got AIDS through heterosexual activity got it
> from men who engaged in homosexual behavior.23 The rare form
> of airborne scarlet fever that stalked San Francisco in 1976
> also started among homosexuals.10
> 
> health risks-- they impact our taxes and everyone's chances of
> illness and injury.
> 
> Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous
> activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to
> join them, it is important that we neither encourage nor
> legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.