Dear Phil, in regards to this old message to me,.
  
 >  Howie Coombe said to Phil Marlowe

 >> that i am back on this echo, although

 >  Welcome back.


Thank you,.

 > I've been away for awhile as well.


Various reasons in my case,.

 > Here are a couple of positive tidbits about garlic, the first one    
       > interesting to anyone with heart problems:


Aha, got anything for spearmint, pepermint or Acanacia? sp?

 > --------------------QUOTING-1----------------------- -----SUPPLEMENT 
       > SUBSTITUTES FOR STATINS, GARLIC, OLIVE OIL, FISH OIL, BENECOL
MARGARINE,     > From: "oldal4865" 
 sci.med.pharmacy Subject: Re:
Niacin and blood pressure? Date: Thu, 16 Jan   > 2003 19:21:19 -0500


Aha,.

 >> Niacin combined with Zocor was lowering my BP to uncomfortable levels.
 
 >> seem to be getting the same BP lowering effect with just the niacin,

 >> How about garlic oil caps? Do they have a significant effect on

 >  I attended a Diabetes Training course last night in which
cholesterol /     > heart attack issues were raised. The CDE quoted
reputable medical sources    > which asserted that : a. Fish Oil
(minimum 2 gram/day) b. Benecol (taken as  > the margerine, 3 servings
per day) c. Policosanol (10 - 30 mg/day) are       > partial
replacements for the statins which some of us cannot take. Regards   >
Old Al


Aha, Thank you Old Al,.

 >  From: "oldal4865"  Newsgroups:
sci.med.pharmacy        > Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure?


Aha,.

 >> Not familiar with those last 2 but how about the garlic and things like
 
 >  I checked the hand-outs: 1. Olive oil is a **given**. It is assumed
that    > folks worried about this matter switch to olive oil as their
cooking oil     > immediately. (This was a lecture on supplements. They
didn't discuss olive   > oil as a supplement) 2. Their remarks on Garlic
as a supplement: "Shown to   > be effective in reducing
cholesterol, LDL, TG and increasing HDL. Effects    > may take 4-6
weeks. Adult daily dose 4-12 mg allicin or 3-10 grams fresh     > garlic
or one 600-900 mg tablet. ===Caution: Heat and acid destroy active    >
components so enteric-coated products show better results" 3. Benecol
is a   > trade name for a patented "plant sterol". It is sold
as the margerine (US    > $4 for 8 oz) and as in an expensive capsule.
4. Policosanol is a wax         > obtained from sugar cane(?). It is
sold in pill form, US $0.22 for 10 mg.    > Sorry, no citations given.
This was a training course / lecture / seminar    > conducted by a
C.D.E. at a major hospital. Regards Old Al


Aha. Thanks again Old Al,.

 >  --------------------QUOTING-2----------------------- From:          
       > moloyama{at}yahoo.com (moloyama) Newsgroups:                      
             > rec.food.cooking,misc.health.alternative, Subject: the
BEST way to ingest    > raw garlic Date: 24 Nov 2002 12:05:49 -0800 i've
been determined to find     > the most odor-free way of eating raw
garlic and after weeks of               > experimenting -- i have found
the way and wish to tell you all. cut a clove  > into 4 pieces
LENGTHWISE, so that you have 4 slender quarters. dip it in     > some
oil (preferably organic, nonrefined flaxseed or olive oil), place it   
> far back on your tongue, AND SWALLOW. the oil lets it go down with no 
      > burning and having the clove sliced allows your digestive system
to better   > break it down to obtain the mighty allicin. voila. hope it
works for you as  > well as it has for me-- because i tell you the pills
won't give you nearly   > the same benefit as the REAL THING.


Thank you moloyama,.

 >  From: yaklord{at}aol.com (Yak Lord) actually I'd say its not bad
advice,       > though I'm used to just eating the stuff raw


Thank you Yak Lord,.

 >  From: jrbuffett1{at}sympatico.ca (John B) The main advantage of eating
raw     > garlic is that if you eat enough no one will smell onions on
your breath.    > :-)


Thank you John B,.

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