-> God is longsuffering towards his elect before their conversion awaiti
-> for the time when he will regeneration them and they will savingly
-> repent and believe the gospel.
->
Nahhhh, the Word of God does not state this. Quote chapter and verse.
You once accused me of humanistic replies. What are you doing? you
just answer without any proofs of scripture to back up what you are
saying. Perhaps you don't have any.
However, it is noteworthy that you believe obedience to be an act of
works and therefore not valid to salvation. However above, you state
the very obedience i was referring to, "when he will regeneration them
and they will savingly repent and believe the gospel" However, you got
it all backwards for sure. Regeneration comes with the obedience to the
Gospel, and repentance. There is no other formula in scripture. Again
you state things you cannot prove by scripture. Just off the wall.
-> HAS>Again another straw man Mick. Everybody is not going to be saved
-> HAS>resent you attempting to make that statement as though it is mine
->
-> Well if God is not willing that any perish and the any is the whole
-> creation then the context is clear that he cannot come back until all
-> are saved. That is the thrust of Peter's argument in the beginning of
-> the chapter. Remember he is answering the question as to why Jesus is
-> taking so long to come back.
->
-> HAS>I find it amusing that in one breath you attack Armininiast doctr
-> HAS>and now change your attack to Universalists. Why not stay on sub
-> Because in essence they are saving the same thing. The only differenc
-> is the universalist does not limit the power of Christis death as you
-> Arminians do.
Nahhh, i don't believe you even comprehend Arminist doctrine. You seem
to be a false witness for sure. However i bring to your attention a
scripture found in Matt 7:21. Not all that say Lord Lord shall enter
the Kingdom, but he that does the will of my father in heaven......
Another is found in Rom 10:9-13, in which one must be obedient and call
upon the name of the Lord to be saved.
See Matt 19:28, Regeneration is for them who follow Jesus, not
regeneration and then follow Jesus.
Again Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness that we have done but
according to his mercy he saved us." How did he save us?
Through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost which
he shed upon us abundantly thorugh Jesus Christ our sAviour"
Again regeneration did not come so we would accept Christ as savior but
regeneration is the mode of cleansing when we accept Christ as savior.
Anyway, i see what you are saying does not agree with scripture and you
are enjoined by God to not add to His words nor detract from them, lest
you be found a liar.
There is no point in either giving you a platform for diatribes against
other born again saints of God, simply because they believe every word
that proceeded out of the mouth of God, and do not play games with it.
I find those who are incapable of cleansing themselves from the
filthiness of the flesh and spirit, usually buy into a cheap gospel, in
which they can live in their liscentiousness, and still go to a church
where there is no conviction....... Tsk Tsk
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