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to: ROBBY DITTMANN
from: CHARLIE RAY
date: 1998-05-02 15:37:00
subject: The Arminian christ

Hi ROBBY,
RD>.MSGID: 1:133/8003.0 3548dd9c
RD>.REPLY: 1:107/360.0 8C4802FC
 MJ> No no my friend Jesus SAVES he does not just make men savable if t
 MJ> will perform some kind of work or fulfill some condition. Jesus SA
 MJ> sinners!!!!!
RD>Don't you mean Jesus SAVES the elect who he predestined because he is u
RD>save the non-elect no matter how hard he tries?
I suppose that is an evasive answer but it certainly isn't the Calvinist 
view:)
God reprobates according to His secret will or divine decrees.  He doesn't 
reprobate because He is unable to save the wicked.  He reprobates some and 
elects others according to His divine choice which is secret to us until 
after the fact.
Sincerely in Christ,
Charlie Ray, 
Chaplain
1 Timothy 4:16
Watch your life and doctrine closely.
Persevere in them, because if you do,
you will save both yourself and your hearers.  (NIV).
chaplain@isgroup.net
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