HAS>Mick, this is not a forum for your form of theology. Calvinisn has
HAS>already shown it has no power, but even with all that, and the excuse
HAS>that God isn't saving as many today, shows how small the Calvinistic
HAS>God is.
Harry,
Your god is too small my friend. God is saving whom he wants to save.
The arminian gospel is the gospel with no power because it leaves it up
to the will of man not the sovereign will of God. Calvinism is simply
stating that GOD SAVES SINNERS-PERIOD!!!! He doesn't just put them in a
position to save themselves. We have debated this topic here for years
and you free willers have yet to give any solid biblical exegesis on any
number of texts. Start letting God be God and stop trying to drag Him of
the throne when he dispenses saving mercy for He will have mercy on
whom He will have mercy.
If we want to know if we are preaching the true gospel one way to do it
is to see if what we proclaim to be the true gospel would ever generate
the objections that Paul anticipated his gospel would generate.
Lets start in Romans 6:1. There Paul says:
Romans 6
1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that
grace may abound?
Now do you preach grace so freely that someone would accuse you of that?
Or do you preach a gospel that says we must do something to keep
ourselves saved? If you do than I am sure your answer would have been
diffrent that Paul's.
The next objection:
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the
law, but under grace? God forbid.
Would anyone ever bring that objection to your gospel? If so would you
answer like Paul?
Now here are the 2 that are the most devastating to the free willers:
Romans 9
14. What shall we say then? [Is there] unrighteousness with
God? God forbid.
After Paul states that God loved Jacob and hated Esau he brings that
objection. Does anyone ever accuse you of saying God is unrighteous. If
not you are probaly not preaching like Paul did. One only needs to read
how Paul responds to that objection.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will
have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have
compassion.
16 So then [it is] not of him that willeth, nor of him
that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Would you ever dare to say to someone in response to God being unfair
that he can do whatever he wants to?
The next objection is in response to this statement:
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will [have mercy],
and whom he will he hardeneth.
Now here is the objection:
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault?
For who hath resisted his will?
Does anyone ever ask you why God would ever find fault with anyone since
no one can resist his will? That objection can only be brought against
someone preaching irrestible grace.
If so would you ever say this?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?
Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast
thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same
lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto
dishonour?
If we are preaching the gospel that Paul preached we would generate the
objections that Paul anticipated and we would have similar answers don't
you think.
In closing let me ask you about your prayers.
When you pay do you say something like this "I thank thee God that thou
did wait until it pleased me to come to thee; and that thou did knock
until I was good enough to open the door of my heart to thee and that
thou gave me grace when I decided to receive it"?
When a true child of God thanks God in prayer for his salvation it is
something like this: "I thank thee Lord for thy grace that overpowered
my rebellion and opened up and entered my heart. Had you let me alone
I would have perished in my sin."
Now which one is closer to how you pray?
The first is closer to what free willers claim to believe but the 2nd,
which is not a free will prayer, is basically the prayer of all
truly converted people.
If you pray like the first you are probably unconverted and if you pray
like the 2nd than you probably are a Calvinist in the heart and need
only to have your head catch up to you heart.
For the cause of God and truth.....
Mick James S.S.
An Ambassador for Christ
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"ek autou kai di autou kai eis auton ta
panta auto he doxa eis tous aionas amen"
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* SLMR 2.1a * Being justified freely by his grace......
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* Origin: The Mad House (1:107/360.0)
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