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to: CHARLIE RAY
from: ROBBY DITTMANN
date: 1998-04-21 14:31:00
subject: Divine Decrees

 CR> That is fatalism, not Calvinism.  Calvinism does not 
 CR> teach that people are 
 CR> "automatically" damned or saved against their will.  
I've read it and it still makes no sense.  It seems that you are saying they 
have no choice but to freely choose a certain path.  That's illogical, and 
our God is an orderly God.
Nor does it seem answer the question.  If the elect will be drawn by God and 
will unfailingly respond to that drawing, I can't see where evangelism serves 
a purpose, other than perhaps playing on God's vanity, which I think we can 
agree is not an acceptable answer.
 CR> I do not believe that Arminians are lost because I used to be one:)
Thank you for saying that, and for the caring tone of your post.  It's been a 
while since we had any Calvinists in here who were willing to discuss rather 
than rebuke! :)
Robby
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