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from: BARRY ERICK
date: 1998-05-17 06:48:00
subject: Re: 3D game engine for PB

From: "Barry Erick" 
Subject: Re: 3D game engine for PB?
 
PB is compatible with MASM and TASM. And those are the top sellers. Heck,
Beta may be better than VHS, but you ain't gonna find it in many stores, and
you can't use it in a VHS machine.
     -- Barry
 
Reinier Zwitserloot wrote in message
...
>Unfortunately, if PB produced a standard ascii file as defined by the
>ascii standard and EDIT couldn't read it, then it is microsoft who
>should be modifying EDIT, or alternatively they should not claim that
>it's an ascii text editor, because it would then not be. NASM produces
>OBJ files that adhere to the OBJ standard as defined by IBM, Phar/lap,
>and Microsoft in the document SS0288, and I am not counting
>version/compiler/linker/utility specific additions, just the plain set
>that is required to count as a 'real' OBJ. I have contacted NASM, they
>have put it on the wishlist which so much means as 'if we have the
>resources to do this, we'll give it a try'. I have also contacted
>PowerBASIC, and the only replies I've been getting is that NASM should
>fix their bug, and that PB isn't even considering this one as a maybe
>for fixing. You would expect some service or a good reason as to why PB
>isn't going to fix it. MASM is the standard doesn't sound like a good
>reason to me, because MASM doesn't define the OBJ standard. Document
>SS0288 has been specifically designed for this purpose and my copy
>of this official document is dated 5/92, so it's been around for a
>while. Yet PB claims they can link in OBJs. Clearly this should be
>changed to 'PB can link in OBJs generated by MASM.' That's the essence
>of what I'm saying. PB can NOT link in OBJs. Only MASM output. from the
>PB/DOS v3.2 Reference manual, under '$LINK':
>
>"The $LINK metastatement is used to link an object module (.OBJ
>file)..."
>
>This is in error. NASM produces a correct OBJ according to the business
>standard (doc SS0288, if you can't find it contact me and I'll send you
>a copy) yet PB cannot link it. I call this a bug, and I'm as a customer
>very conserned I'm being waved off without any indication the bug is
>going to be fixed or at least documentation is changed to comment on the
>fact that $LINK is unable to link in standard OBJs, only MASM OBJs.
>
>Either state what your product can do correctly or deal with fixing the
>bug, and most definitely attempt to keep service levels on a fair level
>to your customer, especially if he's been offering help and lots of
>freeware products that have been exclusively designed for PB.
>
>-A slightly peeved customer.
 
 
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