WU>KZ>WU>You must be some guy who actually believes what magazines say in their
WU>KZ>WU>writeups.  They ALWAYS claim a faster time than what the car can alway
WU>KZ>WU>do.  I've SEEN these cars.  I'm basing my statements from facts that
WU>KZ>WU>have actually happened.
WU>KZ>WU>When I say "Smoke", I mean that the Civic will be ahead of those above
WU>KZ>WU>mentioned cars by about 6 or more car-lengths in a quarter-mile.  It
WU>KZ>WU>will cost $4200.00 to perform the transplant, and it takes 6 hours to
WU>KZ>WU>complete.
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WU>KZ>Umm, no.  Most of the things I know I know from personal experience that
WU>KZ>I've seen with my own eyes either at the drag strip or at the street
WU>KZ>races.  What you say about magazines is completely wrong, everyone knows
WU>KZ>that the magazines report SLOWER times than what the car can really do.
WU>KZ>They never launch the car right, and every time I see them testing cars
WU>KZ>on TV for the 0-60 times or in the 1/4 mile they're always spinning the
WU>KZ>tires.  And what you say about 6 car lengths in the quarter mile is such
WU>KZ>bullcrap.  A car length in the quarter mile is about 3 tenths of a
WU>KZ>second difference.  Now you just said before that the VTEC Civic will
WU>KZ>run high 13's/low 14's.  But an LT1 Vette/Z28/Formula will all run at
WU>KZ>LEAST high 13's stock.  The Vette probably more like mid to low 13's
WU>KZ>stock.  And if you're saying that this Civic is beating them by 6 car
WU>KZ>lengths...that would be a 1.8 second lead.  Which would make the Civic
WU>KZ>be running low 12's/high 11's.  Now, I'm not gonna deny that this can't
WU>KZ>be possible but I find it pretty hard to believe that you can make the
WU>KZ>car that fast w/o a supercharger/turbocharger/nitrous set up.  Basically
WU>KZ>all I'm saying here is, you're all excited about how fast this Civic is
WU>KZ>gonna be and you're blurting out these quarter mile times and how it's
WU>KZ>gonna smoke these cars...but the numbers you're giving don't match up.
WU>KZ>So either you lied about it "smoking" those cars because there's no way
WU>KZ>it can smoke them if it's only running high 14's/low 13's, OR, if it
WU>KZ>really does pull those cars by 6 car lengths then apparently you gave us
WU>KZ>the wrong 1/4 mile times.  There is a discrepency in what you say, I'm
WU>KZ>just trying to find out what the truth is.
WU>KZ>     Kid Z
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WU>No...the times that are posted for a particular car in a MAJOR national
WU>magazine are times that are FASTER than what actually happens.  I
WU>know for a fact that SEVERAL of their editors work for major car
WU>manufacturers as well, and so articles as well as times are biased for
WU>their favor.
WU>From your statement, I know...for a FACT that you've never seen these
WU>cars run quarter mile times SIDE BY SIDE becuase I just saw some of them
WU>RUN yesterday.  Our team beat an LT1 Vette last night.  The Vette had a
WU>Borla exhaust, and it was a '95 Model.  The VETTE even gave us a three
WU>car lead.  Our car smoked that Vette but at LEAST six cars.  ONE CAR
WU>LENGTH is only .10 of a second...so you're wrong on that information as
WU>well.
WU>Imagine...putting an Integra motor that developed 196 horses at the
WU>WHEELS inside a 2200lb shell will give you about 11 or 12 horses per
WU>pound.  Wait...let me guess, you also believe that when the magazines
WU>claim that a car produces 200hp, you believe that.  Take into account
WU>that the engine output is approximately 20% different than what comes
WU>out after friction losses and other factors before that power gets to
WU>where it's most important - at the wheels.
WU>You should see some of what I'm talking about.  Puerto Rico has some
WU>pretty fast cars and ALL of them do it without turbos/nitrous.  The fact
WU>that you even MENTIONED supercharging shows that you are in fact
WU>ignorant in this discussion.
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I still say you're full of it, and i still need to see a time slip.  As
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