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to: Jason Vierik
from: Thom Kouwenhoven
date: 2003-06-19 03:35:38
subject: copyright and digital data

A very good afternoon to you Jason

On 18 Jun 03 13:16 you wrote something about *copyright and digital data*...

I decided to get involved in this because I am a sort of audio guru..that
also is my dayjob :-)

 >>  JV> 128 kbps is still CD quality..
 >>
 >> There you are MOST wrong.    I'm not going to give you a lesson on
 >> it.   But invite you to do your own research before you make a
 >> claim like that.

 JV> Nope..  I am 100 percent right...

Nope..you only end up with 100% good camouflaged distortion :-))
I measured this some time ago...only the 320kbps had less than 90% distortion :-)

 JV> I have used, and still use
 JV> professional encoding software..

For what profession is it designed then ?

 JV> When you encode an MP3 from a WAV
 JV> file, the default it 128 kbps..  That is CD Quality..

Nope 128 kbps is a nice compromise between rasonable quality and reasonable
size....320 kbps VBR encoding is much better but it is still lossey
compressed.

What you say is just like saying that JPG pictures have the same quality as
a bare bitmap....ever seen a JPG up close ??

Same quality as WAV means lossless compression...this generally can't
compress much further than 75% compared to the original.

There is no lossless MP3 format...MP3 is no CD-quality.

AFAIK only OGG-Vorbis has a lossless compressionmode.
There are some other lossless encoders but they are not well known.


 JV> 1 megabyte per
 JV> minute, a WAV file, which is the standard found on regular audio CD's
 JV> is 10 meg per minute.

exactly...but this 1 on 11 (average) compression (128kbps) is only possible
by throwing away a big part of the original signal.

Greetingzetcetera, Thom


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