Hello Ron!
Sunday January 11 1998 10:12, Ron McDermott wrote to Chris Lord:
 RM>
 CL>> The final condition follows from the first. If the learner
 CL>> is to come to pursue the truth for themselves, the reasoning
 CL>> they come to employ must genuinely be their own, and not
 CL>> that of their teachers or other influential people.
 RM> This is almost a definition.. Of COURSE this
 RM> will be "their" reasoning; for it to be otherwise,
 RM> they would have to be automotons.  Their
 RM> reasoning will be affected by the information
 RM> provided, however, and this can be shaded; as we
 RM> all well know...
 RM>
 CL>> It is inconceivable that people could come to do this through
 CL>> processes in which they were unwitting or involuntary
 CL>> participants.
 RM>
 RM> Hardly... First of all, most people PRESENT
 RM> themselves to be educated, however involuntarily.
 RM> This presumes their agreement, ALSO however
 RM> involuntarily that may have occured (kids don't
 RM> go to school willingly, in general)..  Secondly,
 RM> people CERTAINLY "learn" things through processes
 RM> which are covert AND involuntary!  People learn
 RM> through exposure, and exposure doesn't have to
 RM> be voluntary....
Is it education?  Just because I know something or have learned
something does not mean I have been educated.
All the preceding definition is problematic as the next post hopefully shows.
Cheers
Chris
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