MD> -> MD> I liked mario because it offered diffirent things to do, besides
MD> -> MD> guy bashing.
MD> ->     ~~~~~~~~~~~~
MD> -> Like what?  I dunno, I playaed Mario 64, from the beggining to the en
MD> -> there's nothing else to do BUT bash the guys!  Just on them, make lon
MD> -> jumps to
MD> -> jump on them. You have like 3 different kinds of way of bashing the
MD> -> bad guys, there's the slide.. Jump on them.. jump then pess the z
MD> -> button, you can punch them... Oh, you are soo right... ..
MD> -> Sorry, but I REALLY don't see what
MD> -> else the game has other then bashing stuff... I mean, that's the
MD> -> only thing you
MD> -> can do if you want to have the stars, and not die.
MD> No offense, but crash doesn't have wide arrays of moves either.  If you
MD> look at it, he jumps, spins, and rides stuff.  Then again, crash didn't
MD> need a million moves to be good, and neither did mario.
MD> oh yeah, and in crash 2 he belly flops.
I know, but if you look carefully, the topic was NOT about who has the more
moves, it's about bashing.  You said that Mario was something else then
bashing... I was telling you there is about 3 ways of bashing bad guys.
MD> -> The bosses?  Please, they all used the same type of way of being
MD> -> "killed"...
MD> -> There's the first one, that bomb king, you need to go to his back,
MD> -> pick him up,
MD> -> thrown him, same thing with bowser, you need to get to his back,
MD> -> pick him up, and throw him. Then there's those other bombs where you
MD> -> just need to BASH in order for them to fall in Lava..
MD> You got the bomb right, but missed out on quite a bit.  The whomp guy
MD> you had to stomp on his back when he tried to crush you, bowser you had
MD> to throw into bombs, twice, with two diffirent sets of attack patterns.
Bowser is the same type of bad guy as the king bomb.  You pick him up and 
throw
him.  That's it, one you just have to throw, the other you have to throw in
bombs.  But the thing is the same, you pick him up, and throw him.
MD>  The bully you had to knock into lava.  There was quite a few more.
MD> same boss killing?  i really don't think so.
There's like 1 boss you have to knock into the lava, another very similar 
aht
you have to knock in the icy cold water, smaller ones that you have to know
into the laval also.  Same thing.
MD> -> Like what?  I dunno, I playaed Mario 64, from the beggining to the en
MD> -> there's nothing else to do BUT bash the guys!  Just on them, make lon
MD> -> jumps to
MD> -> jump on them. You have like 3 different kinds of way of bashing the b
MD> -> there's the slide.. Jump on them.. jump then pess the z button, you c
MD> -> them... Oh, you are soo right... .. Sorry, but I REALLY don'
MD> -> what
MD> -> else the game has other then bashing stuff... I mean, that's the
MD> -> only thing you
MD> -> can do if you want to have the stars, and not die.
MD> There's quite a bit.  There was saving lil' penguins, finding the
MD> snowman's head, figuring out the sequence in the chests on the
MD> underwater levels, red coins, tons of secrets, the caps, as you
MD> mentioned, finding points on the map, etc. etc...
Again, if you want to GET to the snowman, or GET to the treasure chests, what
do you have to do, in order NOT to die?  Defend yourself by bashing the bad
guys.
MD> -> Oh and don't forget the story, Marios story has been repeated since
MD> -> 1980 or something... well, it's the exact same story all over the
MD> -> place. From mario 1,
MD> -> to 64.  As for Crash, the story is much more different, he needs to
MD> -> save the planet, the story also has a plot twist.. who do I trust?
MD> -> Dr. N brio or that other one... And the Crystals are harder to find
MD> -> (not the purple ones) then any
MD> -> star in Mario 64.
MD> Mario never needed a story.  Neither did doom, and look how popular
MD> that was.
Look at my previous message about Doom2.
MD>  Same with quake.
Quake didn't do that well, people were arguing that it was too brown, and it
had some competetion...
MD> You must admit, CB2's story wouldn't
MD> exactly sell as best novel of the year.
I never said that, the point here, is not if the story is GOOD or not, but 
that
the story IS THE SAME OVER AND OVER.  In Mario 1, you need to save the
princess, in Mario 3, you need to save the princess, in Super Mario Land, you
need to save the Princess, in Mario 64, you need to save the princess.. I 
mean,
hello?? Originality?  I think not.  While, Crash Bandicoot 1, you have to
defeat the evil Dr. to save the world.  While in the second one?  It's not 
he
same thing, once again, the story is different, you have to help him get the
crystals to save the world, and when you get half way through the game, the
plot thikins, unlike Mario which stays the same.. Half way of Crash2, you can
either keep on helping the Dr. or help the other one, Dr. N Brio..
MD> Sure, there was the crystals,
MD> but how many times have we seen the evil genius trying to take over the
MD> world?
That is not the story, in Crash2, you are trying to help the bad guy to get 
the
crystals to save the world.
MD> Sonic series and about a million more games, anyone?
Hey, I never said Sonic was original.. I agree, sonic isn't.
MD> -> I think I have proven my point a bit, no?
MD> I think you've only proved you've watched someone play random points of
MD> mario 64, and based your conclusion on that.
Why does anyone think I have just watched the game?  I can say the same thing
about you and Crash2, you don't even know the story.. While Mario 64?  I can
play it, want my phone number so you can call me voice?  Then I'll give you 
y
cousins phones number which has the N64 and Mario 64! And ask him if I played
it, OK?!  Geez, I have played the game, I know everything about the game, I
found 119 stars... I couldn't find the last one, I had to ask my friend, and 
it
was the one where you jump in the Princess Window and get all the coins in 
he
slide, and then you get the star..
MD> -> 1- You said Mario has less bashing.. I gave you tons of examples.
MD> I didn't say that.  I said it had more focus on puzzle solving/item
MD> collecting.  It has just as much bashing.  But it also has much more,
MD> as i explained.
MD> -> 2- You said Mario is more original.. Not really.. again, I told you
MD> -> why.
MD> And i stand by my point.  Crash boils down to another 3d platform/side
MD> scrolling game, with a storyline used a billion times.  A good game,
MD> but I still like mario better.  I would seriously consider actually
MD> playing the game, instead of watching parts of it played by someone
MD> else, and formulate decent opinions from that.  As for crash, he's a
MD> good game guy.  But i simply like mario better.
Argh!!!  I have played the game, you are doing it on purpose to frustrate me 
or
something??  What do you want to know?  Look, just for your pleasure, I'll 
tell
you everythiung I know about the game, all that I did, ok?  Will that prove 
o
you that I have played the game?!?!!?  Or better, ask me questions you think 

wouldn't know, and I'll tell you what the anwers are, aks me where the 
ecrets
are.. Want to do this on the phone so you know I'm not looking through
magazines or such thins?  Fine, tell me so, and I'll give you my phone 
mber.
Geez, I HAVE PLAYED THE GAME, I HAVE FOUND 119 STARS!  There is 120, I know,
geez.. what can I say!?
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