From: Steve Zielinski
Subject: Re: Why the NFB
Agreed with this Jamal. Quite true.
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 empower@smart.net wrote:
>
>
> Although we have had our differences in the past, I have always thought
> that Mr. Jernigan has done more to advance the condition of blind people
> than any living person in the world today. Although Dallas in July may be
> his last NFB convention by his own statements, I wouldn't count him out
> yet in his battle with cancer. If anyone has the character and
> resourcefulness to win such a battle, I think he does.
>
> Regards,
> Jamal
>
> On 1998-04-19 NFB-Talk@NFBnet.org said:
> >I don't think the federation is now in the unfortunate situation.
> >It has done far more than any other organizations of the blind. Dr.
> >Tenbroek and Dr. Jernigan both have done their jobs in their
> >consistant beliefs and philosophy of blindness. The fact that
> >there might be some agreements and or disagreements on what the
> >federation including its leaders have done is something I would
> >emphasise less than the main purposes. Leaders are human beings.
> >They have their own personal characters. I can have a dialog with
> >anyone as long as they are genuine with their belief. Dr. Jernigan
> >happens to be a person with a strong belief most of which I happen
> >to agree with him. I admitedly said to him that I may disagree
> >with him on the matter of how certain things can be done, but I do
> >agree with him on the matter of what it means to be blind. And
> >that is, what I believe, to be the most important matter for the
> >federation. Regards, Thian.
> >On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Steve Zielinski wrote:
> >> Thian,
> >> Thanks very much for the additional information. No, I do not in
> >> any way take it out of context and also take the statement for
> >>what it is, a statement of power. It is also brutal politics
> >>unfortunately. Nevertheless, it says a whole lot about where Mr.
> >>Jernigan is coming from and explains a lot about why the
> >>federation is what it is politically. Quite unfortunate.
> >> I had an experience when working with Jamal Mazrui on his case
> >> which is quite interesting. During the campaign I got a phone
> >>call from Homer Page who was then involved with the leadership.
> >>For all I know he still is, I just don't know. He asked me if I
> >>was intending to hold a picket of the federation board on the
> >>next day. He indicated that rumor had it that I was. I was
> >>quite astounded since there was absolutely no plan for any kind
> >>of picket, though it probably was a good idea. This showed me
> >>how one of the ttactics used by the leadership when under
> >>pressure is to promote rumor and innuendo. I don't know who
> >>started the picket rumor and I admit the leadership made a call
> >>to find out, but the very idea of a picket was never considered.
> >>I know none of us who were involved with the Mazrui case ever
> >>considered a picket, to the best of my personal knowledge.
> >>Nevertheless, there was the rumor. So how did it get started
> >>anyway? We'll never know. Others were in the room when the call
> >>came in and we discussed the phone call afterwards. So I also
> >>wanted to get first hand knowledge of a statement if possible as I
> >>quite recall the phone call from Page and this whole experience
> >>makes me want to varify what I hear when possible. I know you
> >would understand. And again, testing facts, verifying issues and
> >>statements is part of a more open democratic process. > Take
> >care and have a nice day. >
> >> On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Monthian Buntan wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I heard it myself as I sat with Dr. Jernigan. A man from one
> >>country in > Asia, who was and still is admiring nfb's
> >>achievement in its persistent in > the philosophy of blindness,
> >>asked him such question. >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Thian.
> >> >
> >> > PS: I hope the statement I quoted earlier was not taken out of
> >>context. >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Steve Zielinski wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thian,
> >> > >
> >> > > Interesting comments there. Were you able to hear this
> >>comment > > of Mr. Jernigan first hand or was the information
> >>passed on to you from a > > source who was there? When did this
> >>happen? I ask this so as to > > establish the historical context
> >>of the statement and to gain further > > knowledge. Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Mr. Monthian Buntan wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Perhaps some of us may find this comment helpful and please
> >>feel free to > > > state any further comment.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I remember listening to one of Dr. Tenbroek's speeches
> >>which stated that > > > the organized blind movement must be
> >>strong by its determination and > > > purpose, and must be
> >>democratic by its process. > > >
> >> > > > Also at a dining table in Melborne, Australia, one person
> >>asked Dr. > > > Jernigan when he would step down (meaning when he
> >>would let the > > > organization run on its own by new generation
> >>without much of his > > > involvement)? And I remember very
> >>clearly that he said "power cannot be > > > given. It mmust be
> >>taken. If I give power to anyone, then he/she does not > > >
> >>really have power on his/her own." Dr. Kenneth Jernigan is indeed
> >>a living > > > blind philosopher of our time. But how many
> >>people, even many of us in the > > > federation, really
> >>understand what he has said? > > > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thian.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > +----------------------------+
> >> > > | Steve Zielinski (N8UJS) |
> >> > > | stevez@ripco.com |
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> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> +----------------------------+
> >> | Steve Zielinski (N8UJS) |
> >> | stevez@ripco.com |
> >> +----------------------------+
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 - Registered
>
>
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| Steve Zielinski (N8UJS) |
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