From: "Geo." 

No, my network connection for my vista machine is pegged at max. If I have
any other network activity being generated by the vista box it takes away
from my file copy speed.

As for the thing I'm calling a hang, it manifests in different ways but
since it doesn't "hang" with every file copy it's obviously not a
resources issue. It usually happens in the same directories and at the same
point so I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with what is in that
directory or the fact that others are accessing those files. That's the
only pattern I've been able to identify so far.

And the UI is responsive if you try to close the window, but it's totally
unresponsive if you try to right drag a file out of the window. That's why
I'm calling it a hang, certain file functions are totally locked up till it
completes its little walk of all the files.

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:4677f350{at}w3.nls.net...
   Are you saying that when you copy files to the server that your machine
is pegged at 100% CPU?  If not, there is idle time.

   That the green bar stops is not a hang.  The UI is responsive as you are
aware since you can close the window.  Why would you try to be misleading about this?

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:4677ac53{at}w3.nls.net...
  Who says background activity is idle time activity? If I'm copying 2gig of
  files to the server this extra network and disk activity is certainly not
  idle time activity. And that's pretty typical of what I do, open a folder
  and copy a bunch of new video to it.

  As for the corruption hang, I haven't figured out exactly what causes it
and
  am guessing that it's either file corruption or locked files since the
  servers and the other devices are not windows based it's hard to tell but
  every once in a while that green progress bar stops part way across and
  hangs for several minutes. I usually just start my file copy and close the
  directory window once it's started to get the system to stop wasting
  resources.

  I've noticed this lately because I bought a new 2TB of storage and was
  moving some massive amounts of files around, copy operations that take
many
  hours to complete. So when I see the system wasting bandwidth and disk
that
  I want to be used for my copy op I go looking for an off switch.

  Geo.


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:467762ca$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Again you are being unclear and your horrible analogies don't help.

     Thanks for acknowledging that the folder contents display immediately
and
  that the thumbnail extraction is a background activity.  What I still
don't
  get is that your assertion that it is a whole lot of activity that you
don't
  need the system to spend resources on.  It is a background activity.  It's
  not clear why you are concerned about idle time activity.

     As for a corrupted file hanging the window, that would be interesting.
  Is this something you made up as speculation or something real because you
  never mentioned it before?  If it is real, what type of file is this as
  there are different thumbnail extractors for different types.  If you have
  third party software installed with video support it could be providing
the
  extractor or even supplanting the system provided thumbnail extractors.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:46774646{at}w3.nls.net...
    Yes the folder contents display immediately but the background activity
is
    the problem because if one of the files is corrupt or locked by another
    process it hangs the whole window. It's also a whole lot of activity
that
  I
    don't need the system to spend resources on.

    It's like driving a car that wants to slow down and read every street
sign
    and if one is blocked from view it stops and waits till it can see the
  sigh.
    I just want to get to where I want to go and damn the stupid system
  reading
    as I drive.

    If I set the folder default template to say list or details view, it
still
    does this stupid reading every file thing. Is there no off switch?

    There is another thing with this that I've noticed, it doesn't take the
    first frame of a video and use that for the icon, instead it reads what
    appears to be a random number of frames and then grabs one. If I were to
    create a icon in each video file would that stop this nonsense?

    When I open a decent sized folder, you know the green progress bar that
    appears in the address bar, well it can take 4 or 5 minutes before it
    completes. That's a whole LOT of background activity I can do without.

    Geo.


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:46768fdc{at}w3.nls.net...
        If I wanted one default view for local folders and another for
remote
    due to speed reasons I can't do that.

    Are you saying that the folder contents are not displaying immediately
  with
    thumbnail extraction happening in the background?

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message
news:46765e76{at}w3.nls.net...
      Thanks it does help but not a whole lot. Here's the annoyance I'm
  having.

      I have a couple of network file servers, I attach to them //ip/share
    instead
      of mapping drives (because mapped drives has it's own problems when
the
      servers are not available).

      Because of that any setting I set for folders on these servers doesn't
      stick. They immediately use the default template next time I attach
but
      depending on what's in the folder at that particular moment determines
    which
      default template they are going to use.

      If I knew how the system was determining which default template to use
I
      could at least understand this seemingly inconsistant behavior and
    possibly
      avoid it.

      If there was an off switch I could turn this crap off.

      If I wanted one default view for local folders and another for remote
  due
    to
      speed reasons I can't do that.

      See how this gets annoying real quick?

      I'm also leary of setting the default templates (I did set one)
because
  I
      just know the first service pack is going to reset them all on me and
  undo
      my defaults (been there many times) so what I'm going to do is dig
into
    the
      registry and see if I can find an off switch for this insidious little
      bastard .

      If I were a programmer I'd write a control panel applet 5 colums of
      checkboxes to set all of them on one screen, that's really what MS
  should
      have done.

      Geo.

      "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
      news:4675f8d1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > This may help
      >
      >
    http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1480933&SiteID=17
      > Be aware that the 'Apply to Folders' option only affects folders of
  the
      > same type or template, e.g. 'All Items', 'Documents', 'Pics &
Video',
    etc.
      > So if you want to set list view as the default for all the major
  folder
      > types, you need to use 'Apply to Folders' five times, once from each
    type
      > of
      > folder.
      >
      >
      >
      > That being said, you can force the 'All Items' template on to
      > all folders with the following:
      >
      > Copy the text between the lines below into notepad & save as a .reg
    file.
      > Watch out for line wrap -- [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...\Shell] is all one
    line,
      > there is a space between 'Local' and 'Settings'.
      >
      > --------------------------------------------------
      > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
      >
      > [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
      > Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
      > "FolderType"="NotSpecified"
      >
      > --------------------------------------------------
      >
      > Merging the .reg file will set the 'All Items' template for any
  folders
      > that
      > don't currently have a view saved with a different template.  You
can
      > clear
      > all saved views by deleting the
      >
      > "HKCU\Software\Classes\Local
      > Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags"
      >
      > key BEFORE merging the .reg file.  If any folders open with a
  different
      > template after clearing the 'Bags' key & merging the .reg file, they
    most
      > likely have a template specified via their desktop.ini file.

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