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->  -=> Quoting Charlie Ray to Clarence Hogan <=- 
Hi Clarence, 
 
I'm trying out a new service on the internet whereby I can answer fidonet
messages online.  Hope this works.  :) 
 
->  CR> Hi CLARENCE, 
->  
->  Hi ya' brother Charlie! 
->    
->  -=> Quoting Charlie Ray to All <=- 
->  CR> Go To Morning Reading Evening, December 31 
->   
->  CR> oThe harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.o 
->  CR> u Jeremiah 8:20 
->   
->  CR> Not saved! Dear reader, is this your mournful plight? Warned of th 
->  CR> judgment to come, bidden to escape for your life, and yet at this 
->  CR> moment not saved! You know the way of salvation, you read it in th 
->  
->  CR> *****Snip***** 
->   
->  CR> Spurgeon, Charles H., Morning and Evening, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos 
->  CR> Research Systems, Inc.) 1995. 
->   
->  CH> Brother Charles, absolutely no disrespect whatsoever is meant, 
->  CH> but I must ask this question after reading your post..."How 
->  CH> can a person be "saved" and "die" at the same time?"! 
 
I don't understand your, question, Clarence.  Please clarify exactly what
it is you're asking?  Also, please note that I didn't write this article.  It
is a devotional from Spurgeon's Morning and Evening for the evening of
December 31st. 
 
->   
->  CH> It would seem to me that this is indeed the question of the 
->  CH> ages and few there be that have answered it satisfactorily in 
->  CH> the past 6000 years, due to the fact that the devil has kept 
->  CH> the answer in complete confusion, right? 
->  
->  
->  CR> Romans 5:12-21 answers that question, Clarence.   
->   
->  How so brother Charlie, for all that Ro 5:12-21 speaks about is 
->  physical death of these mortal temporary houses/temples that we 
->  are now duelling in, right? 
 
Physical death is the proof that spiritual death came upon all humanity
through the sin of one man, Adam.  We are all dead spiritually and separated
from God because of Adam's rebellion against God's probationary command not 
o
eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. 
 
->    
->  CR> We all shall die a 
->  CR> physical death unless the Lord returns first.   
->   
->  Of that, there is no doubt for it is appointed unto men once to 
->  die, but after this the judgment!  Right? 
->    
->  CR> However, in another 
->  CR> since those who live and believe in Christ will never die:)   
->   
->  How so, since the devils believe also, right? 
 
I was only quoting from John's Gospel, Clarence.  Of course, the full
teaching of the Bible is much more indepth.  We also must repent and live a 
godly
life in Christ Jesus:) 
 
->  
->  CR> I'm not 
->  CR> confused about it at all.   
->   
->  That is wonderful my brother!  :)  There shall indeed be joy in 
->  Heaven among the angels!  :) 
->  
->  CR> To be absent from the body is to be present 
->  CR> with the Lord.   
->   
->  True, however, the only question is WHEN, right? 
 
Clearly, Paul intends for us to understand that it happens immediately at
death.  Afterall, he did describe being caught up into the third heaven. 
 
->  
->  CR> Then at the resurrection we will receive our glorified 
->  CR> physical body or spiritual body. 
->  
->  Most certainly or we are of all men most miserable, right? 
->  
->  CR> Romans 5:12-21 
->  
-> ... .......>>>=======>  MD2SP  <=======<<<....... 
->  
->  I was in the Air Force, what branch of Service were you in? 
 
United States Squids.....uh Navy. 
 
God bless you:) 
 
Charlie 
 
Chaplain, Forensic/Correctional 
Florida Department of Corrections 
 
Our motto is:  You jail 'em, we preach the Gospel to 'em. 
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