Hello Kip..mii'gwetch for the repost..all that you've posted has helped me
to give more to my Grandchildren who are with me,in learning more about who
they are as Anishinaabek Women and their connections to your ancestors.
respectfully

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinaabek artist/member of The First Nations of Turtle Island
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Kip King  wrote in message
news:3BB75DAF.662D4C8C@home.com...
> p.s. - Our tribe in Kentucky fought on the side of the Americans against
> the British and the main group of Cherokee in the US Revolutionary War.
>
> Kip King wrote in alt.native:
> These were the ancestors of my tribe, the Upper Cumberland River
> Cherokee Indians of Kentucky. In 1805, when the last of our tribal land
> in Kentucky was sold by fraudulent treaty, we were given the option of
> moving south with the rest of the tribe, or remaining as individuals on
> individual pieces of land. My ancestors chose to stay.
>
> fish@digitalcave.com wrote in alt.native:
>
> One element often ignored by researchers is the presence of Cherokee
> who NEVER WERE part of the Cherokee "Nation" per se (the 1835 "paper"
> Nation established by Ross and his cronies).  There were large
> numbers of what were called "Overhill Cherokees" who'd gone over the
> mountains and down into Kentucky and Tennesee, and it's well
> documented that some of them were there as early as the 1700's (the
> U.S. even signed treaties with some of them!).  They WERE fully
> Cherokee, but they were isolated enough from the bulk of the Nation
> that many things passed them by (Ross's 1835 Nation didn't include
> them, for example.... and the pre-Removal census didn't include them,
> nor were any attempts made to Remove them in 1838).
> Wade Wofford