Kip King wrote in alt.native:
>
> These were the ancestors of my tribe, the Upper Cumberland River
> Cherokee Indians of Kentucky. In 1805, when the last of our tribal land
> in Kentucky was sold by treaty, we were given the option of moving south
> with the rest of the tribe, or remaining as individuals on individual
> pieces of land. My ancestors chose to stay. My dad has, and I will
> eventually inherit, about thirty acres of Cherokee land at Rockholds, KY
> that has never been out of Indian hands.
>
> fish@digitalcave.com wrote in alt.native:
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> > One element often ignored by researchers is the presence of Cherokee
> > who NEVER WERE part of the Cherokee "Nation" per se (the 1835 "paper"
> > Nation established by Ross and his cronies).  There were large numbers
> > of what were called "Overhill Cherokees" who'd gone over the mountains
> > and down into Kentucky and Tennesee, and it's well documented that some
> > of them were there as early as the 1700's (the U.S. even signed
> > Treaties with some of them!).  They WERE fully Cherokee, but they were
> > isolated enough from the bulk of the Nation that many things passed
> > them by (Ross's 1835 Nation didn't include them, for example.... and
> > the pre-Removal census didn't include them, nor did were any attempts
> > made to Remove them in 1838).
> > Wade Wofford