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to: ROGER MARSHALL
from: RICH LOCKYER
date: 1997-08-28 20:13:00
subject: Extra 300

Hello Roger!
On 26 Aug 97, Roger Marshall wrote to Rich Lockyer:
 RM>  I took a hiatus from the hobby myself back in the '80s - took a new job
 RM>  and it "ate me alive" for awhile,
I know the feeling... I'm doing about 30,000 miles a year on business.
 RM> gave up everything except food and
 RM>  sex...well, almost gave up the latter also since I was working night 
nd
 RM>  day -
Wife works nights, so I know that feeling as well ~8-)
 RM>  I had the Goldberg Extra some time ago - best flying bird I have ever
 RM>  had -
Ya... the biggest problem that I had was that it loved to float when it hit 
ground effect, even deadstick.  Our approach was over a pistol range with a 
10 foot wall, maybe 30 yards ahead of the runway.  The official approach 
pattern was to come in BEHIND the range and make a turn to final just past 
the wall.  I could never get the hang of that, so I'd just approach over the 
range.  Problem was, if I didn't clear the wall by less than 10 feet, I 
wouldn't be able to hit the runway within the first 20 feet, and if I touched 
down any farther down than that, it would run off the end into the grass.  I 
never did master sideslip ~8-)
 RM> lost due to radio malfunction -
I almost lost mine the last time I flew it.  I hadn't flown power in about a 
year, but had spent some time with the slope gliders.  I went to turn over 
the range and stalled it.  Of course, a big bird like that with a YS.61 does 
NOT turn like a 30" span 32oz slop racer.  It didn't spin down... just nosed 
over and dissappeared behind the wall.  I was ready to shut the transmitter 
off when my buddy grabbed it and pulled back on the stick.  It popped up and 
cleared the wall by about 2 feet.  We landed it, and there was a smudge of 
dirt on the left wingtip.  Best we could figure was that it recovered from 
the stall just in time and landed itself at full throttle, touching the wing 
in the process.  No damage other than some frayed nerves.  The next day I 
bought the OS 1.08.
 RM> been looking for another since
 RM>  then (but a little larger) and have been giving some thought to the
 RM>  Midwest Extra 300s kit with an ST3000 that I have.  What do you think ?
I've not heard good things about ST3000 reliability... of course, your 
results may vary.  What size prop does it turn at what RPM?  On an aerobatic 
bird like the Extra, I'd definitely prefer to overpower within reason.  The 
Goldberg is a .60-.90 2cy or 1.20 4cy kit.  I've seen it flown on the OS 1.08 
and it's fantastic.  A powerful .61 like the YS is the bare minimum... my 
ASP.61 was severely underpowered.  It would hold knife-edge on the YS.61 for 
maybe 150 feet... not at all on the ASP.
 RM>  I haven't built a Midwest kit in many years and don't know a thing 
bout
 RM>  their quality, etc. now.  I'd appreciate any thoughts you have.
I don't think I've ever built a Midwest kit.  Mine were Global/Hobby Shaft, 
Goldberg, House of Balsa, Combat Models (when they made wooden kits), and a 
couple of EZ ARFs.  I never did finish the EZ F/A-18... designed for a .40 
but was going to get my ASP.61 ~8-)
C-ya! Rich
--- GoldED 2.40
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