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echo: indian_affairs
to: RAY LEDFORD
from: RICHARD SMITH
date: 1998-05-22 20:34:00
subject: What drops from above...

  };> Ray Ledford wrote in a message to Richard Smith <:(
  RL> as I'm sure they've all left in a few weeks, I'll close
  RL> the hole up. Gotta wait for the little ones to leave the
  RL> nest.
 RS> I take it that you'll board over the hole too?  Nice of you
 RS> to wait.  I see too many people who can't abide wildlife
 RS> even so long as it takes them to call Animal Control.  I
 RS> fear a lot of our population are out of touch with our
 RS> fellow passengers on this planet . . .
  RL> I've known about the hole for some time.  I should've
  RL> closed it up before spring, but my wife and I were too
  RL> excited over her pregnancy, and then after we lost the
  RL> baby last month, too upset to really care about a lot
  RL> of things.
 Understood.  My condolences.
 RL> I'm not going to kill a creature unless it's necessary.  My
 RL> cats usually think it's necessary, but after all, they're
 RL> cats.  It's what they do -- besides sleep all day.
 It IS part of their stock in trade . . .
 RL> He's posted here for some time, but that post just rubbed me
 RL> the wrong way.  Sometimes he's said some things here which I
 RL> felt pushed the envelope, but others, particularly Sondra,
 RL> would gently chide him.
  RS> I had automatically fallen into the habit of ignoring his
  RS> posts over there, it must have persisted over here as well.
 RL> What I find funny is that he'll eventually reach a point
 RL> where he will either claim that he's no longer going to
 RL> respond to me, or he's no longer going to post in this echo,
 RL> then he'll turn around before a week has passed and reverse
 RL> his proclamation.  He told me last week he wouldn't post
 RL> here anymore, and then whoomp!  There he was again! :-)
  RL> I've experienced that as well.
 RS> And, from what I see here, will continue to experience
 RS> it.
  RL> Yep.  I'm afraid so.
 Habits are hard to break.  Besides, you at least listen to
 him.  Not everyone does.
 RS> the Jews.  Odd how he bragged that he was the son of
 RS> an `Elected' Cherokee Chief, even over there.
  RL> Yeah, he's told me that, too.
 RS> It's one thing to claim something, it's another thing
 RS> entirely to prove it.  I wouldn't take him at face value.
  RL> I don't.  It's rather ridiculous for white people to claim
  RL> such a thing.  Even though I'm a descendent of Cherokees,
  RL> I'm also a descendent of Europeans, too.  I wasn't raised
  RL> within Cherokee culture, so I'm not going to claim to be
  RL> Cherokee.
 I'm hesitant to even share the lineage I know, if for no
 other reason than I think there's a real dividing line
 between how those who are full-blooded, and those who
 aren't, react to it.  I've some negative experiences with
 some who said they were full blooded, and I expect that
 there are some here who are full blooded as well.  I'm just
 trying to not set myself up for slams or anything.  
  RS> Some things never change.
 RL> I wouldn't say that.  For instance, I change my socks
 RL> every now and then.  :-)
  RS>  Ah, but the socks have really got
  RS> to want to change . . . 
 RL> I'd be at a loss for words if my socks ever talked to me...!
 You and me both, Ray.  Take care.
 Naturam expellas furca,
 tamen usque recurret.
 Richard Smith
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