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echo: linux-ubuntu
to: AARON THOMAS
from: BENNY PEDERSEN
date: 2020-08-14 13:33:00
subject: Re: Mint 20 `Ulyana`

Hello Aaron!

12 Aug 2020 20:35, Aaron Thomas wrote to Benny Pedersen:

 BP>> live updates, that breaks tripwire signatures, design of how wordpress 
 BP>> is secure is badly brokken, updates are fine if its done in normal spec
 BP>>  file f building binaries pkgs to be installed

 AT> Live updates for Wordpress or for plugins? 

both

 AT> To me, it seems like a bad 
 AT> idea regardless.

yes since gentoo have md5 of every installed file in portage, so basicly
wordpress webupdate is designed to clue less we want updates, more or less
maybe just how its creeamed in centos

 AT> You know how sometimes plugins start to conflict after an 
 AT> update?

yes, words press is more stable if no webupdates or any update or even just new
plugins is installed, to solve it all kind of plugins or even just themes must
be in the tarball, so gentoo and other can verify md5 of every file installed

tripwire will be happy aswell there, but tripwire is just not needed with
gentoo :)

 AT> What do you mean by normal spec file building? 

take a 10Gb tarball custommize the spec file for what you need, then compile it
and install the binaries compiled install, that way no one on remote can update
it

 AT> I apologize, I don't understand that.

fair

 BP>> at first i thinked its only a gentoo problem, but no its not, would 
 BP>> you replace a kernel with something builded at microsoft that clams is 
 BP>> latest

 AT> Who is doing that?

hopefully none

 AT> That sounds crazy!

Donald Trump is normal ?

 AT> Unless it's inadvertant?

maybe

 AT> I assume that none of us want to be dependent on Microsoft.

+1, i still have microsoft roms in my commodore 128 (basic), that is imho crime
that it was alowed to be there without full asm source, commodore did not
notice the risk of no more updates, it was silently killing old and good
computer systems so microsoft could take another ride at new problems to solve


 Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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