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to: John Tserkezis
from: Bob Lawrence
date: 1997-06-01 09:26:16
subject: Ten Minute Limit

To: John Tserkezis

 BL> I wonder what Fido will do when they find out what's happening?

 JT> They already know. At least some of them who read avtech do.

 JT> I had the "supplying a fido feed to an excommunicated node"
 JT> thing come up again just recently by my current NC. I don't
 JT> know if he meant the first case of the message I posted in
 JT> net_dev, or this current one in avtech. Either way, the net_dev
 JT> case is a moot point now, and the avtech case is not really a
 JT> case at all since paul is no longer "excommunicated". I told
 JT> him this and he hasn't brought it up since. I think they're
 JT> scraping the bottom of the excuse barrel. 

  Creeps don't need an excuse, they invent them.

  I've been through this on CB radio, except that it was creeps
*blocking* communication. deja vu rules OK.

  We did a terrible thing. There was a creep who called himself Lame
Duck, so we tracked him to a rented house in Burwood and went around
to see him one night. He told us to bugger off, nya. nya. nya.

  At the time we used to talk to a bikie-trucker-psycho-crazy who
drove down Parramatta Road every day and was not long out of Long Bay
so we gave him Lame Duck's address and he put him in hospital. We
never heard Lame Duck again!

  The terrible thing was that we had a fair idea of what would happen.
Lame Duck had the personality of Rod Speed and was a poofter besides. 

 BL> it would be a simple matter to use false PATH: lines.

 JT> Wouldn't work (or be effective rather). In the case of the
 JT> gating from PEnet, the first path line would be added by the
 JT> first non-point fido node handling the mail, me.

  Not if you doctor your software, it won't. Your only problem is that
your boss could trace the mail though his logs and your password.
You'd have to work out a way to get past the 8-character password (not
too hard), or better still, obviate the Fido "hello" entirely. You're
not breaking into Fort Knox here...

 JT> If I were to
 JT> fake it, it would still go via my uplink, either way, the
 JT> origin line reads 3:712/610.20. Policy 4 also states if you are
 JT> gating mail, you must clearly identify the gating system, so
 JT> you can't remove the origin line and expect to get away with it
 JT> for any extended amount of time.

  ROFL! I'm talking about rooting the system here, not obeying it!
I'm talking about feeding AVT into Fido so it seems to be coming from
somewhere else. 

 JT> Stuff them I say.

  The way to stuff them properly is the go around then as if they
aren't there. That's what I thought Paul intended... gate AVT onto the
Internet as a newsgroup and then pick it up from the Internet all over
the planet, gating it back into Fido as required.

Regards,
Bob

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