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to: Jesper S?rensen
from: Dale Ross
date: 2003-06-22 13:06:14
subject: Re: fidomsg.xml

DR>> OK I've read everything. I am interested. Who else is working on this
 DR>> and what is the current status of people working on this? Can you
 DR>> link them into this echo?

 JS> H?kan (2:200/0) and Micael (2:204/710) are the other two main
 JS> contributors, and they are both linked to this echo. I don't know if
 JS> they're reading though. I know H?kan is also very busy with
"real life"
 JS> stuff at the moment though.

I can understand that. Real life has me very busy too.

 JS> The project is currently sleeping, because noone has had the
 JS> time/energy to take the lead and move it forward. It's also a bit
 JS> disappointing to take all incoming fire in FTSC_PUBLIC/NET_DEV as soon
 JS> as one mention the word XML. I do believe it has a very good potential
 JS> though...

Move forward and forget about FTSC_PUBLIC and NET_DEV. Those people cannot
think forward and will do nothing to help move ANYTHING positive forward.
When I visited the iFFB BBS i read some of the recent stuff in FTSC_PUBLIC.
Have you not noticed that those that argue against have done NOTHING but
argue against? They have no proof of concepts of ANYTHING. They argue for
two reasons.

1. They like to argue
2. They will do anything to keep change from happening.

They talk about other ways to do things but that is all it is, talk.

 DR>> So this iFBB runs on Win32 platform? I will have to check it out and
 DR>> see what it is.

 JS> Yeah, I think Micael is a "Microsoft" guy so he's using
IIS and ASP and
 JS> other nasty stuff. I'm more of a GNU/Linux and Apache/PHP guy myself.
 JS> The good thing with XML is that it's pretty universal so we get along
 JS> fine anyway... ;-)

The more I have learned about XML the more this becomes true.

 JS>>> Further more, I have a home cooked Java/SQL Fido system that can
 JS>>> import
 JS>>> and export messages in both Type 2+ and XML. It currently uses the
 JS>>> format on the web site listed above. It's not production quality yet
 JS>>> but it's proof that it can be done. :-)

 DR>> So where are you going with it? What does the future look like to you?

 JS> I'd like to finish it up and start using it at my main system
 JS> (currently I'm only using it at this private test system). I hope to be
 JS> able to add the last few bits and get it up and running this
 JS> autumn/winter.

I have a big project I hope to have finished this week. Actually it needs to
be finished this week as the machine is supposed to ship on Thursday of this
week. I will find some time after that to try and get something up and
running using the same stuff on my IIS setup.

With best regards, Dale

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