Hello Maurice!

21 Jan 2024 17:51, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

 BP>> you miss my point
 MK> Business as usual.  ;-)

maybe

 BP>> i have a 80286 in my gvp amiga harddisk controller, so i could
 BP>> use msdos
 MK> I suppose except it escapes me why anyone would willingly do that.

i had hope you where amiga fellows in this years of developments where all we like to see if msdos was possible with amiga, pc market was at that time crap just like winCE :)

 BP>> or maybe linux for 16 bit arch :)
 MK> What are you smoking over there?

its only allowed in holland ?

 MK> That was never possible as far as I 
 MK> am aware.

google irc on commodore 64 then ?, yes c64 do irc, now in 2024 it do downloads from the internet, with help of a raspberry pi wifi board, that simply emulate a cassette drive

 MK> minix would be the only real choice if one wishes to waste 
 MK> electicity for little to no reward.  It's all abandonware for good 
 MK> reason.

minix was imho 8 bit not 16 ?

 BP>> 64bit will not see any change on it
 MK> So in other words it matters little to nothing whether or not a 64 bit 

kernel 6.7.3 is now stable, so i upgraded :=)

 MK> processor can emulate a lesser platform (32 bit) given nobody is 
 MK> noticing anyhow.

this is not possible on a 64bit kernel now, if you need 32bit support you will now need a older kernel that still can emulate the 32bit api in a 64bit kernel

 MK> Also where are you finding any REAL development on 
 MK> 32 bit platforms anymore?

is most not fortran now that compiles fine on 64bit ?, what about freepascal then ?

gcc is not arch specifik, so if it compiles it self it works :)

 MK>  Speaking for myself, I was more than happy 
 MK> to create my very first 64 bit system using dual p3's which are 32 bit 
 MK> given at the time there was no distribution that was pure 64 bit at 
 MK> the time.  It worked great once installed and booted on an actual 
 MK> x86_64 platform.

p3 is dead like my ibm quad core pii :=)

a raspberry pi is faster and use less power, unless one need heating aswell :)

 BP>> gentoo gcc needs 4Gb ram to compile now, with 1Gb it does not work

 MK> That doesn't surprise me.  Although I am not a big fan of bloat, in 
 MK> this case both economics and available applications make's current 
 MK> development extremely attractive.
 
 i have giving the gentoo developpers a note on this, currently not fixed on there side to come up with a solution on low mem gcc compile at all
 
 rust is posssible to install precompiled, but not gcc
 
 MK> Also when targetting a minimal 
 
 +1
 
 MK> system, it doesn't require 4Gb of ram to run ...
 
 fido.junc..eu runs on only 1024M of mem, plenty of spare ram to run fidonet and my own vpn server, with my own root CA

 MK> unless we're talking 
 MK> firefox and other greedy applications that really don't have much 
 MK> meaningful to offer in return.
 
 it could maybe need less ram if not so much crappy homepages exists href="" and src="" waste to parsing it
 
 MK>  gcc is worth the extra bytes given all 
 MK> it has to offer in return.  These days that is a very rare trait and I 
 MK> for one am thankful for it.

#metoo

 BP>> 8bit and 16bit hardware boards still lives on self made boards on
 BP>> facebook, i wonder why ?

 MK> I say they can keep them.  They have diddley-squat.

its a learning device


 Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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