On 27/03/2021 02:40, 6+Cola wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:56:39 +0100, Deloptes 
> wrote:
>
>> 6+Cola wrote:
>>
>>> If Biden gets even half his taxation wishes, the entire USA won't
>>> even be able to afford a Pi.
>>
>> haha - USA will become Europe - man here they do not have the ability to
>> manufacture independently anything - the f**king vaccine, not even masks.
>> They have the machines, but not the materials, which they had to import,
>> but couldn't.
>> Europe is already a pathetic case - but hey there were 2 world wars carried
>> out here - and the third one, that is going on is an invisible one.
>> I wonder how USA will develop - at least you have right to own guns there.
>
>    For now .... but the Citizen Disempowerment crusade
>    never ends.
>
>    But yes, with massive taxes - mostly going to "feel good/
>    look good" projects - and enhanced central "management"
>    of the economy from the top down, the USA  could easily
>    take on the look and feel of the EU.
>
>    Maybe the Brits were the smart ones ....

I am a Brit, and I voted to leave the EU.
Why? Because I studied engineering, and system theory.
Large systems with centralised control, signal lag and no local feedback
are very slow to respond to events.

The USA is a federation. There are considerable flexibilities in each
states legislature. And it has the safety valve of democracy. Trump,
love him or hate him, was a *possibility* open to the people.
The European Union is not a federation - it is a top down imposition
that has declared itself immune to prosecution, and its aim is to
completely centralise all law and regulations under a bureaucracy that
is not elected, but appointed. The only elections are effectively show
elections - the European parliament has less power than the US senate.

Not only is it slow and centralised, but it has deliberately removed
feedback from the citizens.


I have no moral objection to this, my objection is pragmatic. It doesn't
work very well.

Brussels bureaucrats would have you travelling behind a dog team
stopping to pick up shit and put it in plastic bags for later 'safe'
disposal  in the Arctic wastes of Lapland, as well as the orderly
suburbs of Berlin,  simply because it makes for neat and tidy
centralised legislation.

The reaction of the EU to the Covid pandemic has shown this very
clearly. Despite desperate attempts to blame Britain, or to tell its
citizens that the British not-for-huge-pharma-profit vaccine doesn't
work, or kills you, the fact is that Britain is after Israel the second
most vaccinated country in the world, and the hospital admission rates
and death rates seem to be reflecting this.

We get so involved in the hype that we dont look at ;political system
rationally and understand them in terms of cost benefit analysis.

I did and voted accordingly.
>
>    Anyway, it is my hypothesis that the huge drive to
>    legalize marijuana (and in some cases all dope)
>    is part of the "socialist" plan. The idea is to knock
>    twenty+ IQ points and all motivation from the
>    Great Unwashed. It is the only way their sort of
>    USA could possibly persist. Stonies don't give
>    a shit. don't analyze too deeply. don't have the
>    focus or energy to protest effectively. So, THIS
>    is our "Soylent Green(leaf)", the perfect way to
>    get the masses to pacify themselves.
>
Anything that persists becomes conservative.
Moralities that suicide their own cultures, do not.

I see nothing wrong in people who might really have very little to offer
society and whom society has very little to offer in return, passing
their lives away in a haze of cannabis fumes.

If they decide to opt out, what in the end is wrong with that?

The major problem today is that the machine has taken nearly everyone's
job away.

There really is no need for most people to work at all - we have built a
world that will supply us with wealth without the need for 'labour' -
which totally invalidates Marx and his dialogue between 'labour' and
'capital'

Covid has further disconnected people from 'work'

Ecological concerns also place limits in the 'consumer' model of wealth
distribution where everybody rushes around selling each other shit that
they don't really need or want in order to justify a 'living wage' so
that they can then buy the stuff they actually do need.

Something will emerge that works. Provided we keep the theoretical
sociologists and Marxists from tampering. Actually the market works
pretty well. If left alone


Heaven preserve us from people who think they have (or say they have)
the answers to mankind's problems.
>


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How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.

Adolf Hitler

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