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From: "Richard Schwartz" To: "Thomas Janstrom" Cc: Reply-To: "Richard Schwartz" There are three ways to go with this, depending on your level of math skills. 1. Spherical Trig. The idea here is subtract the volume of a cone from the volume under a spherical circle that is coincident with that cone. 2. Calculus: Approximate the curved surface with a parabola. For molding purposes, that is close enought to a sphere. Then integrate. 3. Numerical Integration: use numerical integration such as simpson's rule to find the volume. This is actually similar to the calculus method because numerical integration assumes some kind of polynomial for the integrand. One of my favorite methods is based on this. It is exact for the volume of a LOT of things, and close for most everything else. volume= height * average cross section area. average cross section area= (area of top + 4* area of middle + area of bottom)/6 Note that this is nothing more than Simpson's rule integration. If you memorize this one formula, you don't have to memorize anything else from solid geometery. I don't know how well it works for a sector of a sphere; it probably depends how you define "area of the middle". But let's play with it... The area of the top is zero. If you define the "middle" as half the saggita, the radius there is sqrt(h*R-(h/2)^2). So the area there is pi*(h*R-(h/2)^2). The bottom has an radius of sqrt(2*h*R-h^2), so its area is pi*(2*h*R-h^2). If you go through the algebra with the simpson rule 1-4-1 procedure, you get that the volume is: (pi/6)*(6*R*h^2-2*h^3). With h=R, you have a hemisphere, and this result is exact. I don't know about lesser values of h. So just memorize that one volume formula, the 1-4-1 simpson rule. This also works for area of flat shapes: area= height * average width, with "average width" calculated by the same 1-4-1 rule. Recall that the triumph of Newton was replacing three complex rules for orbital motion with one simple rule. Likewise, the triumph of Simpson was replacing all those mensuration formulas with one sim ple formula. Then there is the distasteful fourth way: look it up in a standard handbook. There I found that the volume is... (2/3)*pi*h*R^2, where h is the saggita (which you know how to compute if your are a telescope person) Lesseeee... sanity check: if the saggita is R, you have a hemisphere, and the volume is (2/3)*pi*R^3, which is half the volume of a sphere. Yeah, it works. . . . Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Janstrom" To: "atm" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:21 AM Subject: ATM calculating the volumes > > How do I calculate the volume of a circular section of a sphere? Sort of > like what we grind out when hogging. What I want to do is work out how big a > blank I can get from brick of C1 glass (see corning optical glass thread for > details) I'm planning on casting one of the curves into the blank so I want > to work out the volume of the, at this point convex side. > > Anyway thoughts and more importantly the formula to do this would be great. > > TIA. > > Clear skies, Thomas > http://www.tjanstrom.com > "Don't make me set the laser printer to stun" > > > --- BBBS/NT v4.00 MP* Origin: Email Gate (1:379/1.100) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 379/1 633/267 |
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