Hello Rob.,

 -=> Quoting Rob Mccart to Peter Coggon <=-

 RM> Those are definitely complicated difficult issues to resolve.
 RM> If treaties had been adhered to from the start there would be some
 RM> sort of order but too much has happened to go back and just hand
 RM> over everything that they were originally promissed, such as the
 RM> entire Grand Valley.

  The Brant Tract Grant, issued to Chief Brant, was acknowledged
by both sides, as some parts of the parcel were given freely by
Chief Brant to groups and individuals, sold and otherwise.

The issue in Caledonia is of the government back then, takeing over
as self-imposed trustee, to borrow for things like road allowances
etc, and then it was just as neatly forgotten, as was the Ipperwash
Provincial Park, which was donated to Canada for the war effort
by the First Nations.   The war has been over for ??? and all efforts
have been in vain to get back their loan of the property to the
Federal Government, who I guess in their "wisdom" gave it to the
Porovince as a park...and NOT to it's rightfull owners.

All native people I have met, had never said they wanted all turned
back to before the Europeans arrived.    They have won in court on many 
issues,  we ever got large sums but in some cases due to religious
beliefs, they have not and will not settle unless certain parcels
given them and guaranteed by treaty are returned.


 RM> There's no question the natives got ripped off, as did most of our
 RM> ancestors in one way or another in the distant past or they'd never
 RM> have left their original countries to start over here. None of us
 RM> can go back and change how our ancestors were treated but some sort
 RM> of settlement needs to be made to end the ongoing conflict..

Yes.  I drilled the local Tory here on his leader's comments that
he was going to jail the natives.  For what?   Canada's laws?
Doubt it... mohawks were never beaten in battle, and not conquered
and never surrendered land.  They were granted this land, in the
18th centrury...those treays the new Canada agreed to abide by
and thus Mr. Tory going to arrrest a citizen of another nation
is a retard with a loose tongue looking to heighten tensions.

I think of the people in Caledonia that bought their land, unknowning
now part of the frace of the Province and Ottawa washing their
hands, when they know darn well the deeds are bogus in some cases.

Mr. Tory never answered my email...and I doubt he ever will...just
a ploy to get votes in Caledonia.    

ttfn

Peter



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