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from: DONALD JACOBSEN
date: 1998-05-15 12:42:00
subject: EMT`s

Hi all,
  I'm a Security Officer (not for long) and an EMT student in the State
of Tennessee. (Just 2 more months to go, woowoo!)
  I have a question about the use of EMT's by non-ambulatory services
(such as security companies). Well.. okay, I'll get to the point. The
security company that I work for has an advertisement in the newspaper
for EMT/Security Officers for $900 a week (which is a crime in itself,
you'll only make $900 a week if you work 14 hours a day, 7 days a week).
Naturally, I looked into this, because I'm making nowhere near 900 a
week.
  Well, after talking to the dispatcher a bit, I gathered this: Apparently
the company has a big problem with employees calling in sick, or reporting
at work that they are sick, and need to go home. The company is now hiring
EMT's to drive around and check on these people (whether they are at home
or on a security post) and determine if the person is actually sick or not,
and whether the person should go to/stay at work.
  I have a whole lot of legal/ethical questions about this. Even as an EMT
student, I know that EMT's cannot make a diagnosis of whether a person is
really ill or not. Can these EMT's actually go around and tell someone that
because they don't look sick, they have to stay at work? If the ill person
in question dies or is hospitalized, who's at fault? Is there any way I can
report this to the EMS Regulatory board and have them do something about it
while keeping my butt out of the sling with my company?
  I just think this is rediculous. I'm sure I've been sick several times
(not necessarily at work), that an EMT would have no idea what's wrong with
me or if I would be able to work. I wouldn't want to be sitting at work and
become deathly ill, and have some security guard check me out and tell me I
have to stay at work, because they're too incompetent to diagnose me. And 
hen
I die on the post because my appendix burst and they couldn't figure it out.
Thanks for any reply,
Donald
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From: CHARLES HUNTER                                        Time: 08:04am
\/To: RICH GRIEBEL                                        (Read 1 times)
Subj: RE: Private Police...

RG>The "fact" is you're in the private security profession.  A job that many 
ar
  >proud of and you obviously are not.
And that is something I wonder WHY about.  Perhaps (Could it be) that
his assignment is to guard the job johnnys at some construction site?
Charles
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