From: "Russell Jocoy" 
To: richas{at}earthlink.net, atm{at}shore.net
Reply-To: "Russell Jocoy" 






>From: "Richard Schwartz" 
>Reply-To: "Richard Schwartz" 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: ATM tool for pitch lap...
>Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:12:39 -0800
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Hunter" 
>To: "steve desfosses" ; "liste
atm" 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:50 PM
>Subject: Re: ATM tool for pitch lap...
>
>
> >
> > As long as the tile tool is DRY, you can pour the pitch on and get back
>to
>work.
> > If the tool is damp, you will likely see the pitch separate from the
>tool
>about the
> > time that it would be the least desirable thing to happen.
> >
> > According to some the best thing to do is to warm the tool, then paint
>on
>a thin
> > (with turps) layer of pitch and let that air dry before pouring on the
>pitch.
>
>And according to many others, the best thing to do is to make a separate
>foundation for your pitch lap as soon as you have completed grit #240.
>The
>reason for this is that beginners, especially those who use solid glass
>tools,  frequently do an inadequate job of fine grinding in the edge zone
>and need to go back and grind some more.   If this happens, you prefer not
>to destroy your pitch lap.
>
>A separate lap foundation is made just like a tile tool, but without the
>tile.   Dry it in a warm oven at about 160 degF overnight, treat it with a
>LIBERAL application of Richard's secret sealer sauce, and let it dry again
>for 12 hours.   Turn the oven off and let it cool with the oven before
>building your pitch lap on it.
>
>On the other hand, I am not an expert, and I don't know anything.   After
>all, there is no logic behind what I advocate, whereas others have the
>authority of authoritative authors whose ideas they believe in.  I am very,
>very low on faith and belief; I try to limit my advice to things that I
>have
>done and that have worked for me.
>
>So how can you check the quality of your grinding so that you can
>confidently use the Ken Hunter procedure?   See
>http://www.megspace.com/science/sfe/i_fa_art.html.  There you will find
>some
>tests that you can do during GRINDING to make sure you are ready for
>polishing.
>
>. . . Richard
>
>
>
("atm{at}shore.net")

  Richard, no truer (sp) words were spoken. It seems that ATMer's on the
list are looking for a difinitive
answer for questions that have infinite (well maybe not infinite) but other
options. The "book makers"
on these subjects were alway relaying the information to there success as
what they have done or
felt was the way to do it. To follow these ideas and processes have been
sucessfull for many but
we all have a wild hair. What may work for some may sometines not work for others.
    The basic idea of this forum is to share ideas. Can you imagine if all
of the original masters of
optical art had contact with each other!!!! My god they would have killed
each other over who was
right.. Richard your comments don't jump to a solid rock hard statement
unless the science says
it's true. I respect your comments and the strengh to not give in to the
gossip and  statements that
are not backed up by experience. I have fallen down at this level, although
I do it in a scientific and
intellectual manner as to make my ass look good.... Over 50 and I have to
hurry to get things polished
out to see what I have done...   Richard... you still look ugly with a
respirator wrapped around your head!!!
               PS your the man       RUSS JOCOY

("atm{at}shore.net")

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