Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!caip!clyde!cbatt!cbosgd!ihnp4!cuae2!heiby From: heiby@cuae2.UUCP (Ron Heiby) Newsgroups: net.sources.d Subject: Posting compressed info Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26-Aug-86 11:47:47 EDT Article-I.D.: cuae2.2315 Posted: Tue Aug 26 11:47:47 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Aug-86 20:33:39 EDT Expires: Tue, 30-Sep-86 20:00:00 EDT References: Reply-To: heiby@cuae2.UUCP (-Ron Heiby) Organization: AT&T - /app/eng, Lisle, IL Lines: 37 Keywords: cost, compress, uuencode Summary: Post CLEAR Text. It's CHEAPER! This article is in response to an article in net.sources which is just one example of a misguided trend. That is, the use of compression and uuencoding by posters of "large" text information. I'm sure that the posters who do this have the best of intentions, and I don't blame them for not understanding how the net works. A recent posting of the adventure source was compressed on the poster's machine, then uuencoded into ASCII. This actually reduced the number of characters being posted by a fair amount. I presume that the same is the case with the above referenced article. There are two (at least) factors working against doing this. The first is that many sites don't have the uudecode program or the compress program, so can't read the posting at all. This means that they are paying to transmit "less" (see below) bytes, but none of them are usable by that site. The other factor against the scheme is that it doesn't actually save any money. I took the bodies of the adventure source articles and put them together in a directory. I recorded the total size of the files, then ran them through uudecode (which I had a heck of a time getting, see above), and then through uncompress. I noted that the files were now a fair amount larger. (Looks pretty good, huh?) The rub is that many/most news feeds that are concerned with phone costs or dialer time are already using compress on the batches of news being sent, so what really needs to be compared is the size of the original text (compressed) and the compressed uuencoded files (compressed). When I checked the adventure source, the original files, when compressed individually, totalled just under 300 blocks of disk space. The files as actually posted (original | compress | uuencode), when compressed individually, totalled about 375 blocks, an *increase* of 25% over the very links that are concerned enough about costs to use compress on their news links. The "bottom line" is, "Post CLEAR text. Let the transmission mechanism worry about compression." Thanks. -- Ron Heiby {NAC|ihnp4}!cuae2!heiby Moderator: mod.newprod & mod.os.unix AT&T-IS, /app/eng, Lisle, IL (312) 810-6109 "'Cause there's lots of things in this world that need to BE turned around."